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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:07 pm
(September 28, 2011 at 4:31 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: Actually, I'm not asking you to open your heart. I'm just noting that, for instance, many people don't understand the evidence for Relativity or Quantum Mechanics. But this does not make the latter any less valid, does it?
But there is massive amounts of EVIDENCE for Relativity and QM. It's the evidence that makes them valid, not whether I understand them or not.
There is no such evidence for the existence of a god.
Quote:You are saying you don't understand the proof that has been offered to you for God's Existence. That does not mean God does not Exist. It just means you don't understand the proof for His Existence. That's all.
I've sincerely examined the evidence that theists have offered me. I spent years doing my own research. I UNDERSTAND the evidence that has been presented to me. I came to the conclusion that there just isn't sufficient evidence to support the claim that a god exists.
Quote:Of-course, if you could offer conclusive proof for His non-existence that would settle the matter. But you can't, can you?
Logic 101 fail.
Do you have conclusive proof that there isn't a giant, invisible penguin that shits out stars somewhere in the universe?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:08 pm
(September 28, 2011 at 5:04 pm)Thor Wrote: (September 28, 2011 at 8:47 am)Ace Otana Wrote: Disprove the existence of Thor or Zeus. Then we'll talk.
Hey! I exist! What do I have to do to convince you people?
A 50ft naked women who wants endless oral sex. That would convert me. 
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:09 pm
(September 28, 2011 at 5:04 pm)Thor Wrote: (September 28, 2011 at 8:47 am)Ace Otana Wrote: Disprove the existence of Thor or Zeus. Then we'll talk.
Hey! I exist! What do I have to do to convince you people?
Have you any evidence to back any of these allegations? Or are they just wild and malicious accusations?
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:09 pm
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.
Mark Twain
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:11 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 5:12 pm by Zaki Aminu.)
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:13 pm
(September 28, 2011 at 5:11 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: Are you saying that you think that Ultimate Reality is a fiction? Why?
And why would a giantess that wants to perform fellatio on you be enough to convert you? Is there any logic to this or is it just a throw away comment?
I take it humour is very new to you.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:15 pm
I'll make the same offer in this thread as you prattle on about "ultimate reality" that I did in the other. If you can figure out the name for what you are attempting to do here, I'll rate you up.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:18 pm
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2011 at 5:19 pm by Zaki Aminu.)
(September 28, 2011 at 5:15 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'll make the same offer in this thread as you prattle on about "ultimate reality" that I did in the other. If you can figure out the name for what you are attempting to do here, I'll rate you up.
I'm sure I'll be able to bear you rating me down. I'm just trying to have an adult and intelligent conversation about serious matters. I thought that was what you wanted also. Am I wrong in thinking that?
(September 28, 2011 at 5:13 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: (September 28, 2011 at 5:11 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: Are you saying that you think that Ultimate Reality is a fiction? Why?
And why would a giantess that wants to perform fellatio on you be enough to convert you? Is there any logic to this or is it just a throw away comment?
I take it humour is very new to you.
Not really. But I thought the topic was quite a serious one.
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:19 pm
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Oh no no no, there's actually no rating down here, I'm offering to rate you up. I think it would be a great learning experience for you (searching for what I requested, not the rating).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Top Seven Ways Christianity is Debunked By the Sciences
September 28, 2011 at 5:22 pm
(September 28, 2011 at 5:18 pm)Zaki Aminu Wrote: Not really. But I thought the topic was quite a serious one.
You never add any humour? Not even a little?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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