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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 16, 2011 at 9:02 pm
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Pity is for people who believe in bullshit and spend every day of their lives worrying about what's going to become of them when their fucking rotten worm food.
Admiration, on the other hand, should be reserved for people who are good and moral human beings because they want to be, in spite of what some people claim abhorrent mythical god(s) threaten should they not worship him/them without evidence.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 16, 2011 at 9:18 pm
(November 16, 2011 at 3:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: I pity anyone who believes they have no control over their beliefs. Why even live.
gods child, I think we have been as kind to you as possible on this forum. I also believe we have been more patient with you than MOST Christian websites would be to atheists.
With that said, I think I echo the sentiment of most members of this forum.
Shut the fuck up you fucking jerk.
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Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 16, 2011 at 10:11 pm
So GC, you've admitted that god doesn't punish evil and doesn't reward virtue.
So where is the morality and justice in your theology?
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 16, 2011 at 10:49 pm
(November 16, 2011 at 8:37 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I tell you right now....an eternity with GC rambling on would have be doing all I could to commit suicide.
*Blam*
"Blah blah blah blah blah"
"Wait! Why am I back here fully healed and listening to this?"
"Yeah, well, where else were you going to go? Anyway, blah blah blah..."
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 16, 2011 at 10:50 pm
(November 16, 2011 at 3:45 am)Godschild Wrote: I know I'm not the first to explain this so I really do not see why you would ask.
No, you certainly aren't. I asked because after hearing all of the prior explanations, it made no sense when I applied my own sense of morality.
It still doesn't.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 17, 2011 at 4:11 am
First you say this...
(November 16, 2011 at 2:25 am)Godschild Wrote: Child of God. That means I can know His ways, what He desires, who He is and ect. Scriptures say that we (christians) can know them by there (christians) actions.
Then you say this...
(November 15, 2011 at 10:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: On this you will have to talk to God, He is the judge.
Which is it? Do you or don't you know the will of your god?
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 17, 2011 at 6:50 am
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(November 10, 2011 at 6:11 pm)Voltair Wrote: Assuming there is not a Hell what is the point of salvation then? If we are not going to be punished what are we being saved from?
Nothing. There's nothing to be saved from. They invented 'sin', they invented 'salvation', they invented 'hell'. It's all in their heads. But try and tell them that.
Every time they say that I need to be saved, I have to ask from what?
Quote:If there is no hell then where is justice, what is going to happen to nonbelievers?
If there is no hades then where is justice?, what's going to happen to christians?
What you call justice, I call barbaric. Punishing someone for lacking belief? Did you come from the stone age?
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 17, 2011 at 7:07 am
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 17, 2011 at 8:55 am
(November 16, 2011 at 8:48 am)ElDinero Wrote: Don't forget, and I've made this point already in this thread and don't think it can be overstated: Our lack of belief is BEYOND OUR CONTROL. You cannot choose what you believe. So our eternal damnation is the result of something we have no control over and, if we ascribe to the viewpoint of GC and others, presumably put in place by God.
How do you respond, GC?
My view point on free will suggests that your statement is quite true. I was baptized at 5, confirmed a 7 and, even as a child, I was never able to rationalize the existence of a god.
GC reminds me of another poster from a previous forum I used to visit. Completely brainwashed with no choice any longer in their belief system due to her upbringing. We, on that site, had even suggested that her parents were guilty of 'child abuse' in this respect.
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RE: Hell - Where is the idea of justice?
November 17, 2011 at 4:18 pm
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(November 16, 2011 at 8:37 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: (November 16, 2011 at 5:34 am)aleialoura Wrote: Dudes! Can ya'll imagine an eternity in the same place as GC?
Hell sounds rather inviting when you put it in perspective!
FUCK!!!
I tell you right now....an eternity with GC rambling on would have be doing all I could to commit suicide.
Sadly, Iwill not be able to do so. I've only known him for about a year and I already beat my head into the table reading his responses.
Could you imagine 1,456,567,853,789,678 years and infinity to go with his rambling?
Please beat your head harder you might beat some sense into your brain.
(November 16, 2011 at 5:10 pm)ElDinero Wrote: Firstly, you didn't answer any questions (as always). You were asked to provide proof by IATIA. You did no such thing, so don't claim you answered a question. You were preaching. I know lying is your favourite pastime, but drop it for a second.
(November 16, 2011 at 3:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: I pity anyone who believes they have no control over their beliefs. Why even live.
Great, well I already posed this challenge earlier in the thread to salty, but she hasn't been on to respond since then.
Since you have such control over your beliefs, I want you to choose to believe in no God. You only have to do it for 24 hours, then you can use the same control to bring yourself back to being a Christian. Go right ahead. Choose to believe that there is no God. In fact, just for an hour, how's that?
What you want is not what I want choice made, you probably can't see that I answered your entire question, but then that would mean you would have to use reason and I'm convinced you can not reason.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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