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The Swedish far-right isn't dumb
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The Swedish far-right isn't dumb
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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Good, we should gay up every Muslim neighborhood in the western world.
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(July 23, 2015 at 9:31 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Good, we should gay up every Muslim neighborhood in the western world.

Why don't you take a breather and actually reflect on the story at hand. Using gays as tools is something admirable in your books?
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I'm sorry but this is just the far-right co-opting gay rights to push an anti-Muslim agenda.

As far as I'm concerned, fuck Islam's beliefs, I don't care if they're offended at gay pride. if they're first-generation immigrants and want to live in a country where homosexuality is legal, they should be told to accept it or fuck off somewhere else.

However, the right-wing have become very savvy at making it sound like they're suddenly all for freedom and liberal values when they're opposing Islam. They'll take the "enemy's enemy is my friend" mentality, and suddenly we've got stupid gays and "right-wing feminists" supporting them who can't see through what they're doing. As soon as Islam is out of the way, the right-wing will be straight back to an anti-gay and anti-woman rhetoric.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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(July 23, 2015 at 9:33 pm)abaris Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 9:31 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Good, we should gay up every Muslim neighborhood in the western world.

Why don't you take a breather and actually reflect on the story at hand. Using gays as tools is something admirable in your books?

Would you be opposed to a gay pride parade through a Christian neighborhood because it would hurt their feelings? Of course not. Of everybody on the planet, Muslims are who I am least interested in protecting their feelings. Also who are you to say what the gays who participate in this want to do? They don't have guns held to their heads. Ultimately it's up to them, regardless of who the other people associated with it are. People need to stop the pandering to a bizzare anti-freedom minority like Islam.
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Lets also not forget that one of the most famous 'far right' politicians in Europe was himself a rather flamboyant homosexual. 
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That is before he was assassinated by a thug in the name of political correctness.
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(July 23, 2015 at 9:44 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(July 23, 2015 at 9:33 pm)abaris Wrote: Why don't you take a breather and actually reflect on the story at hand. Using gays as tools is something admirable in your books?

Would you be opposed to a gay pride parade through a Christian neighborhood because it would hurt their feelings? Of course not. Of everybody on the planet, Muslims are who I am least interested in protecting their feelings. Also who are you to say what the gays who participate in this want to do? They don't have guns held to their heads. Ultimately it's up to them, regardless of who the other people associated with it are. People need to stop the pandering to a bizzare anti-freedom minority like Islam.

I can't speak for abaris, but to me it's about the bigger picture.

If this were a left-wing gay march through a Muslim neighbourhood, especially if it heavily involved LGBT people who are Muslims themselves or ex-Muslims, I'd be all for it.

It the bigger picture that this is a right-wing organisation suddenly co-opting gay pride (which under normal circumstances, they would despise) in opposition to something they despise more.

I don't want the right-wing to be the ones at the fore-front of combating Islamism. They'll fight against Islamic values in favour of Christian ones, hurt a lot of innocent people in doing so and will then, after they've achieved what they want, turn against the gay people they used to do it. This is the right wing, they're not friends of gay people, many still have links to neo-nazi groups who would do horrible things if they came to power. They're being manipulative to gain power.
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: The Swedish far-right isn't dumb
That appears to be an obviously cheap ploy, but regardless, anyone that marches in that parade has some steel cojones.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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