God is real and I have the photographic evidence to prove it.

Embrace her glory, undying love, and unadulterated adorableness. Give yourself unto the Bub.

Hail Bub! I'm now a Bubbed again Bubber!

(June 25, 2015 at 2:18 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Do you wish there was a God?

It doesn't have to be the God of Abraham. But just A God. Some supernatural supreme being out there who created us and loves us.... Do you wish that was real or do you prefer the idea of nothing like that existing?

Please explain why or why not.

I voted no, assuming that the god is supposed to be powerful enough to have created the universe and everything in it. I don't want to wish a being into existence and then have to justify why it created Tay Sachs and Harlequin babies.

Now, if this god were instead limited in that it couldn't interact with the physical universe, the universe existed on its own, but this god had the ability to give us souls and have us come to heaven after we die: sure. It'd be rad to live forever in paradise. I just don't see anything equating what we would consider "good" or "loving" governing over a world like this.

If god is to be defined as omnipotent, then no. That being said, if an omnipotent god did exist, I would be incredibly grateful for the life I was provided through him. But, a god who could do anything effortlessly that would allow suffering to me is an immoral one. I would rather think the world we live in is due to chance, than due to a god that can make anything possible.

If god were to somehow limited in power, or interventions on gods part were to come at great cost to said god, then I could be happy with gods existence. I would need to understand more about this god before passing judgement(ha!) but I can see a number of possibilities that I could roll with given this notion of a limited god.

Apologetics would become far, far easier if they let go of this ridiculous notion of "unlimited power". It's pure fantasy, and makes their task doubly impossible. If that's a thing.

(July 24, 2015 at 10:25 am)robvalue Wrote: Apologetics would become far, far easier if they let go of this ridiculous notion of "unlimited power". It's pure fantasy, and makes their task doubly impossible. If that's a thing.

Maybe.  
I feel as though for most structured religions, omnipotence is a pretty serious rhetorical tool though.  At the very least it seems necessary for the continuation of the Abrahamic god.

Yeah. I agree it makes the mind control easier. It just makes the actual justification harder.