"Eternal destruction"

Huh ?

How would one eternally destroy the Empire state Building, to pose an example ??

Eternal destruction implies eternal existence.


Or is this another one of those 'mystery of faith' or 'BECAUSE JESUS !!!!' things ???

You eternally destroy something by destroying it completely, and ensuring it never comes back into existence.

Oh, you don't spend eternity destroying it ??

This is why I said it's still debatable. We have different interpretations of what "eternally destroyed" means.

"Eternal destruction" is confusing me at this early hour . . .

I need to point out that 1) Adam didn't immediately die after eating the fruit and 2) life comes not from the material body but by God's breathing life into the body. These facts point to the second death that John mentions in the Revelation, which is eternal damnation.

That's because the fruit doesn't actually cause death, as Yahweh implies. Him forbidding them from eating the fruit of eternal life does. Kind of a miscommunication thing going on.

If you exist in hell, you're not dead. You're as alive as people in heaven, just in a different location. You exist eternally either way, so saying people in heaven have eternal life isn't really accurate. Much like saying you will surely die if you eat the fruit of knowledge isn't entirely accurate.

(August 3, 2015 at 10:22 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I need to point out that 1) Adam didn't immediately die after eating the fruit and 2) life comes not from the material body but by God's breathing life into the body. These facts point to the second death that John mentions in the Revelation, which is eternal damnation.

You theists keep using this word...

"Facts..."

I do not think it means what you think it means.

Modern definitions don't always coincide with ancient definitions. I guess it's not cessation of existence after all.