(August 4, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Cato Wrote:(August 4, 2015 at 9:54 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Your hermeneutic is incorrect. Some things [though hell not being one of them] were not revealed to us until later times (Hebrews 1:1-2/Ephesians 1:9/Romans 16:25/Ephesians 3:6/etc.).
I find it amusing that in an effort to refute my point you cannot point to any particular story or theme in the OT. Instead, you frolic in the typical Christian game of OT hopscotch trying to patch together anything that speaks of some vague place after death or some form of fire in an effort to bolster what is clearly a later Christian fabrication.
Some doctrine's are arrived at explicitly and some are arrived at systematically (what you call hopscotch). A rejection of a doctrine arrived at systematically is to reject the system by which it was derived. What is your critique of the systematic approach?
(August 4, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Cato Wrote: The heaven and hell concept simply doesn't exist in the OT. You don't have to take my word for it, just go talk to a rabbi. Heaven and hell is simply Christian bullshit and your Jesus is a snake oil salesman.The previous post provided a list, although not comprehensive, of OT scriptures that include the Hebrew word that is translated as hell. Therefore the concept exists (Psalm 139:8 literally speaks of both heaven and hell in a contrasting manner). And throughout the list, God's anger, wrath, destruction, and fire is associated within the context of the word, thus establishing a theme. A theme that is further developed, using similar language, in NT scriptures (2 Thessalonians 1:6-10Revelation 20:11-15/Luke 16:19-31/Revelation 14:9-11/Matthew 3:12/Luke 3:17 Matthew 13:30 explained in 13:41-42).
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?