(August 10, 2015 at 11:15 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: First off God doesn't have total authority over us, as you can't even demonstrate he's real.

Lol, That's not my Job. That's between Him and you. My job is to point you in the right direction, you have to make the journey to God yourself.

Quote: And yes I admit to having a hate the sin not the sinner attitude towards Christianity, but I did not cherry pick your words, I merely stated you prayed for many of us to catch aids which is a fact.

Actually it's not. That little bit you and dishonest people like you have added/changed. Why? because the HATE you have justified the lie.

I only ever offered to pray for those who wanted me to pray for them, that I would pray the VERY SAME PRAYER I PRAYED FOR MYSELF! The one that Gave Me absolute proof that God was real. The Same prayer that started me down my path. Again only Stimbo asked me to pray for him so I did, and I even told Him He would have to pray for the same thing on His end. that is the last I heard of it.

Everything outside of that was a lie to justify preexisting hate and self righteousness. See you feel a certain way, and you look for key word in what I say, so once I say them you can turn them around to justify how you already feel. The Literal Nazis did this in their propaganda against the Jews. it like how 'we' felt 9-12-01 again Most if not ALL Muslims. that is why their was such a strong campaign to separate Islam from radical islam. Before 9-11 no one even knew that term. it was all the same. The difference here is the US government is not spending millions to help you focous your hate.

Think about it. All of this because I caught you misrepresenting the bible. your selfrighteous anger had you believe something (because I'm sure you read and trusted some anti Christian/jewish web site rather than just came up with this mess on your own.) a web site's info that turned out to be misrepresenting the bible to spread it own hate (that you did not check for yourself) and I caught you on it. so rather than admit your foolish error. Pride demanded you destroy my character in an attempt to save face. So you proceeded with the me praying for cancer shtick, and it did not matter what you had to say to accomplish your goal.

Even after I show you you were wrong and how you were wrong, with the web site's info and your own take of my 'cancer prayer' you just admitted to hating, and feeling justified because you believed the LIE you concocted about me and what I have said. Even now you have no issue digging yourself deeper into this because you think because you have blurred the lines of truth so much in your own head, that I too would be confused. Here's the thing sport. I've been doing this a very long time and nothing I have said here on this site is unique to this site. I know what I have said because to me it was a turning point in my life, and I wanted to share it. Yes it is scarry, but what I found in exchange I would not trade for the world.

Quote:I said I don't give a fuck about your justification because demonstrating your God to everyone at the same time should be a simple and unambiguous step. But instead of doing that you want to see us tortured. Also cut the pop morality crap, this thread aptly demonstrates that your "Christian Morality" is in best case scenario nothing more than gods whims, which he can chnage whenever he wants. But go ahead just keep chanting bigot.

The above statement is what I am talking about, you being a bigot. Bigots like to 'bottom line' things. They know logic and reason is not on their side so the make check lists like you did, and they make it simple enough (comfirmation bias) that if and when all items get checked off they can feel safe in turning all logic and reason off and just cruise on Hate. For you this list consists of "did Drich say "Pray for cancer" at any point in anything he has ever said? Yes?!?! Then Nothing else matters I can hate and hate hard, and everyone else should back me and my red herring of hate so that I do not have to admit I was so wrong about OT Jewish abortion clinics!


Your a simple minded d-bag, and no one should ever take you at your word. Emotion dictates truth for you. This angry mob mentality the same 1930's Germany had pre hitler. All you need is a charismatic leader to 'tickle your ears in just the right way' and you would be ripe to do whatever your shepard wanted.

The Germans of the 1930's were not all evil people. No their only down fall is they like you let their emotions dictate truth. So like you they sought to change truth to justify their want and need for bigoted hate. The only difference between you and them... Scale. Now when the world catches up to you and completely forgets the lessons 1930's Germany learned I believe God will have to step in to end the foolishness of man. Because no one will be left to fight this iniquity.

(August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Bullshit. I did the a/s/k for years and got nothing. I also call bullshit on your trip to hell. But go ahead please give me so veritiable and independently reviewable evidence that your trip to hell was real.

That's no problem, when would you like to go? I CAN pray for anytime you like.

Like with 'whatever it takes' prayer I'm sure God is more willing to accomidate you here as well. The only thing is I can not speak for God on your return trip back.

(August 10, 2015 at 12:12 pm)Drich Wrote:

(August 10, 2015 at 11:03 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Wait, now I'm confused.

Drich, did you even actually say you would explicitly say the prayer, "Please God give so and so cancer if that would mean they would find you?"

Or do you just simply pray more along the lines of "Please God help so and so find you in whatever way would reach them?"

Because there is a big difference between the 2 I think, and if it's merely the second one then you have been wildly misrepresented here.

I am not so foolish as to think or presume to ask God for specifics. When I do Ask God for specifics I usally get what I want which I then find out I hate, or did not see a hidden cost. I ask God to do whatever it took to make himself known to me even if it meant taking my health, wealth, and everything else I held dear. I was prepared to live the rest of my life as Job did when He was being tested. We started down that road, and I found contentment. I did not seek the easy way out, even though that is the path I was put on.

So like wise I offered to do the same for anyone here, but told them they like me would have to also ask. I think Stimbo was the only one who took me up on that offer. Shortly there after I found out my white cell count was high and I had cancer markers/porteins in the blood.

Ugh.

I'm sorry guys, but this^ is a far cry from "praying for AF members to get cancer", as y'all accused Drich of doing.

My suggestions is to not let your strong dislike of what someone stands for twist their words in your mind.

(August 10, 2015 at 11:39 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Yep. The third reich, totally secular. Totally. That 'gott mit uns' stuff is uh.....a metaphor.  Yep. And the RCC so didn't love him and celebrate his birthday and have antisemitism as its official doctrine. Nope.

Just another day in lalaland.

You think the 3rd reich was a God sanction effort?

Then please show me book chapter and verse that supports what Hitler did to the Jews and everyone else.

Also You do know the swawitica, the "SS" Runes, the Death's Head, and the Eagle are not Christian symbols, but symbols from several different religions. Why? Because Himlar was a occultist, and adopted all sorts of 'signs of power/demonic or not' to shore up the SS. giving supernatural strength.

(August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:

(August 10, 2015 at 11:36 am)Drich Wrote: your terms or His?

His.

Actually no.. if it were 'His' then you could not Say I tried it for years and quit...

"Getting nothing" from Him is apart of the parable of the wise and foolish builders. If your faith falters after 'you get nothing' then Your actions have been fortold by Christ himself in this parable.

Meaning IF you know Christ and you beliefs/understanding about Him is correct then you will weather the storm that tests your faith. If however you loose your faith then you like the foolish man who built his house on the sand, will loose everything.

To loose everything is not the end sport. IF You had kept knocking as the the man who want the food for his guests, You would have rebuilt a new faith. one that was built on God and not the crap religion who's faith failed you when tested.

Think about it. If you had a completely wrong idea of God, why would He support you or your toxic faith by 'granting your wishes?' Or by jumping through your hoops to 'prove that He is there?'

God has clearly spelled out if you want to 'prove yourself to Him' by A/S/K-ing He will give you proof on His terms. not yours.

You quit. so at Best you can only say you Asked and Sought... But, if your 1/2 assed effort in what you claimed to be OT Jewish abortion clinics is any indication I'd say you only asked for years... Again that what you wanted to do, not what He demanded of you.

Drich going by your tirade you clearly have no idea how I think or what my motives are. I'll give you some insight okay? First off I'm not twisting your words or the context. You prayed for us to suffer to that we would see it your way. I could lose everything and be a quadoparaligic and it still would make no difference on my position of gods existing. The suffering of one human no matter how profound is not even supernatural and could be, and is used as arguments by tehists of all religions. You see the reason I don't believe has nothing to do with any emotion at all. It's pure and simple skepticism, its the fact that people like you have to resort to this pray and you will believe crap time and agian when producing unambiguous and veritiable proof of your God should be easy. So go ahead pray for me however you please, I'll do the same as you ask and I'll even make a thread on here to track it day by day. Also know, my disgust for your religion has nothing to do with its truth, just its actions.

(August 10, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Drich Wrote:

(August 10, 2015 at 11:39 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Yep. The third reich, totally secular. Totally. That 'gott mit uns' stuff is uh.....a metaphor.  Yep. And the RCC so didn't love him and celebrate his birthday and have antisemitism as its official doctrine. Nope.

Just another day in lalaland.

You think the 3rd reich was a God sanction effort?

Then please show me book chapter and verse that supports what Hitler did to the Jews and everyone else.

Hitler was a christian and the RCC fully supported him. This counters your assertion that the third Reich was set on atheism. Who you believe to be a real christian ™ is irrelevant.

A quote from one of Hitler's speeches in 1922:

Quote:The national regime seeks in both Christian confessions the factors most important for the maintenance of our folkdom.... The national regime will concede and safeguard to the Christian confessions the influence due them, in school and education. It is concerned with the sincere cooperation of church and state. The struggle against a materialistic philosophy for the creation of a true folk community serves the interests of the German nation as well as our Christian belief.

Quote:Also You do know the swawitica, the "SS" Runes, the Death's Head, and the Eagle are not Christian symbols, but symbols from several different religions. Why? Because Himlar was a occultist, and adopted all sorts of 'signs of power/demonic or not' to shore up the SS. giving supernatural strength.

Citation, please.

(August 10, 2015 at 1:53 pm)Neimenovic Wrote:

(August 10, 2015 at 1:25 pm)Drich Wrote: You think the 3rd reich was a God sanction effort?

Then please show me book chapter and verse that supports what Hitler did to the Jews and everyone else.

Hitler was a christian and the RCC fully supported him. This counters your assertion that the third Reich was set on atheism. Who you believe to be a real christian ™ is irrelevant.

A quote from one of Hitler's speeches in 1922:

Quote:The national regime seeks in both Christian confessions the factors most important for the maintenance of our folkdom.... The national regime will concede and safeguard to the Christian confessions the influence due them, in school and education. It is concerned with the sincere cooperation of church and state. The struggle against a materialistic philosophy for the creation of a true folk community serves the interests of the German nation as well as our Christian belief.

Quote:Also You do know the swawitica, the "SS" Runes, the Death's Head, and the Eagle are not Christian symbols, but symbols from several different religions. Why? Because Himlar was a occultist, and adopted all sorts of 'signs of power/demonic or not' to shore up the SS. giving supernatural strength.

Citation, please.

I disagree.  Hitler was a masterful politician that used Christianity and the church to further his purposes.  I HATE citing wikipedia, but this article has a great deal of credible citations of historians on the life of Hitler and his true views.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_...olf_Hitler

Does that make the Third Reich an atheistic state, or rather the opposite?

Drich after all this time how can you be so clueless as to what you argue against? I never lost my faith because if storm or anything so dramatic it was simply skepticism and a lack of an ability of people like you to give hard evidence