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God's Child(ren)?
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RE: God's Child(ren)?
Episode 4 of the Amateur Scientist Podcast is the Price interview I was thinking of. It's from 3 years ago, but it's still good - and it's another good show to listen to as well...just not while you're driving because you're liable to laugh so hard at some of their jokes you could run into other people or a wall.
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(October 27, 2010 at 7:18 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Episode 4 of the Amateur Scientist Podcast is the Price interview I was thinking of. It's from 3 years ago, but it's still good - and it's another good show to listen to as well...just not while you're driving because you're liable to laugh so hard at some of their jokes you could run into other people or a wall.

Thanks for the tip! Smile
"If your god has to make peace with me in my final hour when he has my whole lifetime to prove his existence to me...do you think I should bother?"

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RE: God's Child(ren)?
(October 27, 2010 at 3:31 pm)Jonah Wrote: Now, if I have read the Bible correctly, Jesus is supposed to be the son of God.

Yes, but since I'm a Muslim, I don't believe that Jesus is the son of God. Smile

A verse from the Quran:

"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him." [Surah 112, verses 1-4]
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Wow, using one book of fairy tales to counter another, how productive.
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Quote:Wow, using one book of fairy tales to counter another, how productive.

Well your comments seem to be getting more & more productive as time goes by. Must be your superior intelect.
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#16
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There's a brilliant website that can answer this and all other biblical type questions..

http://www.oggtheclever.com/

Great
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(October 28, 2010 at 5:40 am)Darwinian Wrote: There's a brilliant website that can answer this and all other biblical type questions..

http://www.oggtheclever.com/

Great

That would be your website then Dar



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#18
RE: God's Child(ren)?
(October 27, 2010 at 3:31 pm)Jonah Wrote: My pastor conveniently forgot to quote the rest of the passage, which reads, “...and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

Now, if I have read the Bible correctly, Jesus is supposed to be the son of God.
His sonship was different in that he was always the Son of God. The angels were apparently considered sons of God but they were created while Jesus alsways existed.

Quote:Speaking of David and Solomon, I forgot to mention in my original post was the genealogy of Jesus. If Jesus was supposed to be born of a virgin, why does he even [i]have[\i] a genealogy? Joseph wasn't his biological father, so why would he have a bloodline?
The genealogy in Matthew shows that Joseph was descended from the kings of Israel and would presumably have been king if the monarchy had still existed. Jesus wasn't his biological child but considered legally his son because Joseph was married to Jesus's mother. It was through Joseph that he inherited the right to be the king of Israel.

Jesus was human as well as devine because he was born of Mary. Her genealogy is given in Luke 3. Here is a good article about the two genealogies:

http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/matth...and-luke-3

If you think you have found an error in the Bible this site is a good place to look to see if there is an explanation for it:

http://carm.org/


His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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(October 28, 2010 at 4:17 am)ib.me.ub Wrote:
Quote:Wow, using one book of fairy tales to counter another, how productive.

Well your comments seem to be getting more & more productive as time goes by. Must be your superior intelect.

I wish I could say the same.

But seriously, do you see something factually wrong with my statement or do you just like whining?
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(October 28, 2010 at 3:01 pm)theophilus Wrote: The genealogy in Matthew shows that Joseph was descended from the kings of Israel and would presumably have been king if the monarchy had still existed. Jesus wasn't his biological child but considered legally his son because Joseph was married to Jesus's mother. It was through Joseph that he inherited the right to be the king of Israel.

Oh, so he's only rightfully the king of Israel because some broke sheep herder is apparently a relative 2000 years removed from a Jewish King and not because God is him/his father?

And what about the Genealogies in Matthew and Luke being MASSIVELY different?

Luke Wrote:God
Adam
Seth
Enosh
Cainain
Mahalalel
Jared
Enoch
Methuselah
Lamech
Noah
Shem
Arphaxad
Cainan
Shelah
Eber
Peleg
Reu
Serug
Nahor
Terah
Abraham
Isaac
Jacob
Judah
Pharez
Hezron
Ram
Amminadab
Nahshon
Salmon
Boaz
Obed
Jesse
David
Nathan
Mattatha
Menna
Melea
Eliakim
Jonam
Joseph
Judah
Simeon
Levi
Matthat
Jorim
Eliezer
Joshua
Er
Elmadam
Cosam
Addi
Melchi
Neri
Shealtiel
Zerubbabel
Rhesa
Joanan
Joda
Josech
Semein
Mattathias
Mahath
Naggai
Hesli
Nahum
Amos
Mattathias
Joseph
Jannai
Melchi
Levi
Matthat
Heli
Mary[7] & Joseph*
Jesus

Matthew Wrote:Genealogy of Jesus according to Matthew
Abraham
Isaac
Jacob
Judah & Tamar
Pharez
Hezron
Ram
Amminadab
Nahshon
Salmon & Rahab
Boaz & Ruth
Obed
Jesse
David & Wife of Uriah
Solomon
Rehoboam
Abijam
Asa
Jehoshaphat
Jehoram
Uzziah
Jotham
Ahaz
Hezekiah
Manasseh
Amon
Josiah
Jeconiah
Shealtiel
Zerubbabel
Abiud
Eliakim
Azor
Zadok
Achim
Eliud
Eleazar
Matthan
Jacob
Joseph & Mary *
Jesus

If anything it shows that the book is even more spectacular bullshit than even you Fundies indirectly make it out to be.

Quote:Jesus was human as well as devine because he was born of Mary. Her genealogy is given in Luke 3. Here is a good article about the two genealogies:

http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/matth...and-luke-3

If you think you have found an error in the Bible this site is a good place to look to see if there is an explanation for it:

http://carm.org/

Ohhh Matt Slick, excuse me while I don't give a fuck. In case you haven't realized yet, Matt Slick is despised by almost as many Christians as he is Atheists for many reasons, but in this case it's his 'interpretations', they are at occasion like reading those humorous demonstrations of bad reasoning and reading into it that you see from Mitchel and Webb.
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