Never mind the fucking Bible, you have to be truly, desperately stupid to believe this obvious forgery is anything else. I mean COME ON.

I think you nailed the problem, Iro.

(September 15, 2015 at 12:04 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I think you nailed the problem, Iro.

I think I'm as blinkered as a Catholic - my brain simply cannot accept that people actually believe this shit. Help me Min!

Just read Randy and you'll see what kind of people fall for this shit.  It's not you.  It's them.

I wonder why you even bother engaging him. He's proven that he's got no clue on source criticism and admittedly uses tons of apologetic material. Which doesn't even rise up to the paper standards to serve as asswipes.

It's an atheist forum and shitheads like him deserve to be told off.

If he wants to get blessed and blown by pervert priests he can go to a catholick board.

(September 15, 2015 at 11:30 am)Minimalist Wrote: How do your catholic "experts" explain the fact that this "man" had a head that was 1/2 inch wide?

http://skepdic.com/shroud.html

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Quote:Actually, it has two images, one frontal and one rear, with the heads meeting in the middle. It has been noted that if the shroud were really wrapped over a body there should be a space where the two heads meet.

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Jesus was an alien? 

Jesus was a mutant?

That's what a god looks like?

That's what a body looks like when it gives up the ghost?

(September 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I'm talking faces not arms Randy.  Open your eyes and look:

Here is the face depicted in the shroud:

I don't see a problem.

(September 13, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I don't know enough about St. Peter's bones to opine.  But anyone who bothers to look at the proportions of the body depicted on the shroud of Turin knows it's a fake.  No real person has those proportions, but art made at the time it first surfaced did.  Surely if Jesus were monstrously out of proportion to the extent of being a freak of nature, someone would have mentioned it?  It's not even as if it's a genetic defect commonly found or recognized it's not.  No one has those proportions.  It's as if the shroud first came to light ten or fifteen years ago in Japan and had the huge eyes and bodily proportions of anime cartoons.

Oh---- Welcome back Randy.

One other question:

How is it that the intensity of the image on the shroud translates into a near-perfect 3D image of a man?

It wasn't until a few years ago that we had the technology to recognize and capture that image...how did an artist capture that data on a linen cloth with an image that is no more than a micron or two deep in the fibers?

Either this cloth is the real deal OR it is the most amazing icon ever created.

(September 15, 2015 at 1:34 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It's an atheist forum and shitheads like him deserve to be told off.

If he wants to get blessed and blown by pervert priests he can go to a catholick board.

Because atheists can't be expected to be polite to their guests and to engage in civil discussions even when they disagree with them?

Believe me, Min, you and a few others here have more than confirmed the classic stereotype of the angry atheist.