"...And Lo, what Jesus wrote on the ground was the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the direct words of God to all mankind, so clear and unquestionable that all who saw it were like, Dude, there totally is a God, and Jesus is that God. And thus were billions of lives saved in wars for millennia to come."

(October 22, 2015 at 3:30 pm)Divinity Wrote:

(October 22, 2015 at 3:24 pm)Kitan Wrote: That is akin to stating that the proof of spider-man's existence can be found in a spider-man comic.

I think you're missing what he's saying.

It's like Ikea Instructions.  It doesn't make any fucking sense, but apparently if you connect part C to Part G with Tool F and then rotate in reverse part L, you'll end up with a chair.

The main difference is with Ikea instructions you'll inevitably call someone who already put one together and they'll come over and you'll see the chair.  With the bible you won't see the results until after you're dead, and even then you're not really fucking sure about it.  Especially since like Ikea instructions they're confusing, stupid, and written by somebody who has no fucking clue how a human being thinks.

If that were true why hasn't the religion died? Even with false religions their is something powering belief something that underscores what is promised from that religion. In this life Christianity makes claims that are generally reserved for next level, next life people in other religions. (Prophets and even Demi gods) That's a pretty tall order to fill for 2000 years if it was only as you say don't you think?

"For Behold! Jesus had given the people algebra and the Calculus, and Germ Theory, and the secrets of the printing press, and thus did the scientific revolution begin that would keep billions from suffering."

(October 22, 2015 at 4:15 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(October 22, 2015 at 2:00 pm)Drich Wrote: And if the bible does not say He is all loving and all forgiving?
The bible does not say God is All loving. Matter of fact their is a list of those in whom God flat out hates. The bible also never says God is all forgiving. John 3:16 even says forgivness is conditional "That who so ever BELIEVES Shalll not Perish.." Belief is said condition to God's boundless love.

It's funny how your 'logic' only works on the strawmen you build yourself...

Because HE CREATED HELL YOU NIMROD, HE ALLOWS SUFFERING TO EXIST THERE FOR HE ISN'T ALL lOVING! that is all. 

"I think your missing what he is saying."

I am saying God is not all loving. I said their are those in whom God hates. (FYI that is the opposite of what you think I should be saying about God.)

(October 22, 2015 at 9:34 pm)Drich Wrote: If that were true why hasn't the religion died? Even with false religions their is something powering belief something that underscores what is promised from that religion. In this life Christianity makes claims that are generally reserved for next level, next life people in other religions. (Prophets and even Demi gods) That's a pretty tall order to fill for 2000 years if it was only as you say don't you think?

You know, you're right- that is totally  a reason to accept and follow Hinduism's Sanātana Dharma, "the eternal law" or the "eternal way".

Except it's 3000 years, not two.

(October 22, 2015 at 4:25 pm)Divinity Wrote: Pretty sure Ikea's instructions are Historically and Scientifically wrong too.

Seriously? What do you need them to draw a pic... Never mind.

There, their, and they're.

Please learn when to use each one, Drich.

(October 22, 2015 at 9:38 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:

(October 22, 2015 at 9:34 pm)Drich Wrote: If that were true why hasn't the religion died? Even with false religions their is something powering belief something that underscores what is promised from that religion. In this life Christianity makes claims that are generally reserved for next level, next life people in other religions. (Prophets and even Demi gods) That's a pretty tall order to fill for 2000 years if it was only as you say don't you think?

You know, you're right- that is totally  a reason to accept and follow Hinduism's Sanātana Dharma, "the eternal law" or the "eternal way".

Except it's 3000 years, not two.

It's almost like you stop reading/thinking when you think I walk into a standard atheist arguement...

Again, even false religions have something supporting what it is they promise. Now if leveling up for the next life is your thing, then that is a 3000 year old religion for you.. Just ignore the billions living in squalor and their failed attempts of 'leveling up.' I'm quite sure you could master it in a single life time while those born in that religion (for hundreds if not thousands of year) fail miserably even in this day and age.

Seriously, look beyond the obvious, at everything I am speaking about. Yes I made mention to a 2000 year history, and yes I know their are older religions, so why would I be standing on just the age of the religion? I very clearly pointed to 2000 years of kept promises. Not just vague promises either. I pointed to the fact that Christianity promises its followers the things that the eliete/prophets in other religions don't always get to experience. What's more these things happen in this life not the next so they can be verified! You can't make empty promises for 2000 years and hold a religion together. Look how fast people are abandoning the church once it started preaching empty prosperity doctrines. With in a generation it's been gutted.

So again whether in False religion or under the care of God, it all boils down to what you are looking for.

(October 22, 2015 at 9:47 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: There, their, and they're.

Please learn when to use each one, Drich.

Maybe you should have Siri just read to you if my usage of the word there, reduces your responses  to fish bait. (Red herring)