Yes but you're just making up that he is like the sun. Can't he stop himself hurting things just by being near them?

So the only interaction he has had is dictating a book? Doesn't he do anything else?

He's never interacted with you?

Science books match up better to real life than the Quran. Hell, most stories match up better. Why aren't they also all written by God?

(November 10, 2015 at 7:06 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: [...]To know he's interacting, it'll be special.. I'll know anybody would know.

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”


― Charles Bukowski

OK well, it seems there isn't any actual answers forthcoming here so I'm going to give up. Thanks for trying anyway Atlas. I can't accept "I'll just know" as a criteria.

(November 10, 2015 at 7:09 am)robvalue Wrote: Yes but you're just making up that he is like the sun. Can't he stop himself hurting things just by being near them?

So the only interaction he has had is dictating a book? Doesn't he do anything else?

He's never interacted with you?

Science books match up better to real life than the Quran. Hell, most stories match up better. Why aren't they also all written by God?

Ain't life a test of belief ?
For humans to choose (by their own free will) between God and satan.
It won't be fair if God showed himself, then all of us would believe. We must believe by our own logic. The holy books are mere "Heavenly help" to ease up our path to believe.

Being that, we can't see him in this life, the law of this life was written for it to be the test where we, and only we, decide which path to follow.
The Quran never contradicted human science, actually that is one reason I believe more and more.

About what God does ? he's a creator, unlike us he doesn't need "entertainment" or "change" or "fun"..

There's no reason to think life is a test of belief.

So he's deliberately hiding and providing bad evidence to see who will come to the irrational conclusion that he exists?

I don't care if he exists, it makes no difference to me. If I believe he exists, I have passed? I think not. I also have to kiss his ass, which I'm not going to do.

Anyhow, clearly you've convinced yourself that there is no evidence because he's concealing it, but you believe anyway, so that's kind of the end of the discussion.

(November 10, 2015 at 7:15 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(November 10, 2015 at 7:06 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: [...]To know he's interacting, it'll be special.. I'll know anybody would know.

“The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.”


― Charles Bukowski

That classic "atheists are smart, believers are stupid" argument...
  I missed it.

(November 10, 2015 at 7:24 am)robvalue Wrote: There's no reason to think life is a test of belief.

So he's deliberately hiding and providing bad evidence to see who will come to the irrational conclusion that he exists?

I don't care if he exists, it makes one difference to me. If I believe he exists, I have passed? I think not. I also have to kiss his ass, which I'm not going to do.

If you see the universe as a bad evidence, then I have to disagree.
Knowing there's a 'death' coming to each of us, I tend to care more about the existence of that creator.

Life is too "boring" and "short". It smels fishy.

Huh? You're not happy with life so you must invent fairy tales to feel better?

No, the universe isn't evidence of anything except itself. We don't know its origins. You're claiming to know more about Cosmology than all of science just by looking at stuff.

Atlas, I see you making a lot of knowledge claims about the nature of your god, but they're sorely lacking in Vitamin E(vidence).