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RE: Muslims
Quote:I'll wait for a while....but remember I'm already 66 years old.
I thought you were like 100 years old.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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RE: Muslims
(November 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(November 23, 2015 at 12:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Why do modern, supposedly intelligent educated people, believe the BS that ancient con men cooked up?  The average people of today should be herding goats in some desert.  They are too stupid to live in the modern world.

There are people out there who only believe in God because they feel it is the "normal" thing to do. This is intellectual laziness, and yes, kinda stupid. But I think for most of us, due to our life experiences or for whatever other reason, it really does just make more sense to us for God to be real. I don't think this makes someone stupid or uneducated.
What it shows is that such people are superstitious twits who believe in all sorts of imaginary beings.
  
Consider the lunatic Scientologists.  They know full well that their system is complete BS  and that it was started as pure BS.  But they still believe in it.  The same is true for all religions throughout history.  It's an obvious sign that people are mentally ill.  It's easier to overcome stupidity than it is to overcome lunacy.
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RE: Muslims
(November 23, 2015 at 10:35 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(November 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There are people out there who only believe in God because they feel it is the "normal" thing to do. This is intellectual laziness, and yes, kinda stupid. But I think for most of us, due to our life experiences or for whatever other reason, it really does just make more sense to us for God to be real. I don't think this makes someone stupid or uneducated.
What it shows is that such people are superstitious twits who believe in all sorts of imaginary beings.
  
Consider the lunatic Scientologists.  They know full well that their system is complete BS  and that it was started as pure BS.  But they still believe in it.  The same is true for all religions throughout history.  It's an obvious sign that people are mentally ill.  It's easier to overcome stupidity than it is to overcome lunacy.

So are you diagnosing me as being mentally ill?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Muslims
The vast majority of us would say, no, not clinically.
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: Muslims
(November 23, 2015 at 11:01 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(November 23, 2015 at 10:35 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: What it shows is that such people are superstitious twits who believe in all sorts of imaginary beings.
  
Consider the lunatic Scientologists.  They know full well that their system is complete BS  and that it was started as pure BS.  But they still believe in it.  The same is true for all religions throughout history.  It's an obvious sign that people are mentally ill.  It's easier to overcome stupidity than it is to overcome lunacy.

So are you diagnosing me as being mentally ill?

Cognitively deficient, but not necessarily mentally ill.
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Mmmhmmm. I see how it is. Everyone who doesn't have the same views as myself regarding the existence of god(s) must be mentally ill (though not clinically) and cognitively deficient. Wink
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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No, only those who have had a decent education in modern science and still chooses to believe in God are cognitively deficient or insane. Otherwise they are simply uneducated, or undereducated, or were bamboozled when told what they had qualified as education befitting a society almost 4 centuries beyond the start of the Age of Enlightenment.
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(November 24, 2015 at 1:01 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: No, only those who have had a decent education in modern science and still chooses to believe in God are cognitively deficient or insane.   Otherwise they are simply uneducated, or undereducated, or were bamboozled when told what they had qualified as education befitting a society almost 4 centuries beyond the start of the Age of Enlightenment.

Ah I see.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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So the correct thing is this, everyone who doesn't have the same views as yourself regarding the existence of god(s), are either cognitively deficient/insane, OR they are uneducated and ignorant. Gotcha.

Isn't that the attitude YOU guys claim to hate when theists have it?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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