(November 24, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What was Dawkins himself? Does anyone know?

Was? He is still alive...

He classifies himself as a 6.9, as do I.

Cathy, can you please tell us where you would be on Dawkins' scale?

I don't believe that gods exist. If one does, it's in the most abstract sense. Not some theistic god that badly wants to have a relationship with me, but refuses to actually initiate that relationship. Making it as difficult as possible to believe he exists or want to have a relationship with him.

(November 24, 2015 at 12:38 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I don't believe that gods exist. If one does, it's in the most abstract sense. Not some theistic god that badly wants to have a relationship with me, but refuses to actually initiate that relationship. Making it as difficult as possible to believe he exists or want to have a relationship with him.

Assuming it's a "him" and not a "her" or an "it."

That's the way he's refered to by his followers, so I'll stick with the male pronoun. Not that the Abrahamic god is very good at communication in the first place.

When I first joined this site I would have chosen Option #2.  However, after years of listening to theists attempt to produce evidence that their god exists and failing miserably I have now moved into the Option #1 camp.  Were evidence of a god to be provided I would change my mind but the futile attempts of believers have not come close to meeting the standard.

Catholic breaking out the capital G, only one potential entity is under consideration. Said entity certainly does not exist.

Gods are the invention of men. Nothing more.

(November 24, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote:

Quote:(7) There is no God, and I am certain of this.

(High 6) I firmly believe there is no God, but there is a teeny tiny possibility I could be wrong.

(Low 6) I believe there is no God, but there is a possibility I could be wrong.

(5 or 6 depending on interpretation) I really don't know if there is a God or not, but since I have not yet seen any evidence, I live my life as though there isn't.*

(4) I have no idea one way or the other, and am always weighing both possibilities in my head.

I say I'm a solid six because I'm not inclined to be skeptical, I've extremely skeptical given the long history of god-claims being debunked, so to speak.  Every time in history to date that a theistic claim has come under serious scientific scrutiny it has either been conclusively shown that the claim has a natural cause (lightening instead of god's wrath, mental illness instead of demons, germ theory of disease instead of curses, etc.) or no cause has yet been found, so to claim god as the cause of that phenomenon is an argument from ignorance.  At the same time I cannot call myself a 7 because that's philosophically and evidentially unjustifiable (as unjustifiable to me as a theist claiming to be a 1), so I'm a 6.  (Depending on the day and how crotchety I'm feeling, I could be a 6.9, a 6.5 or even a 5.5)

Until the trend of finding natural explanations for things claimed as the will or act of a god suddenly begins to reverse, then I kind of don't have a choice in the matter.

Yeah, I definitely meant for the "do not know, but live as if there is no God" option to be between a 5 and a 4, but I can see how it can be interpreted differently. Everything else is right on, except maybe the "weak 6" would be between a 6 and a 5... lol. Ahh, this is getting complicated lol.

"I firmly believe there is no God, but there is a teeny tiny possibility I could be wrong."

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(November 24, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: When I first joined this site I would have chosen Option #2.  However, after years of listening to theists attempt to produce evidence that their god exists and failing miserably I have now moved into the Option #1 camp.  Were evidence of a god to be provided I would change my mind but the futile attempts of believers have not come close to meeting the standard.

Lovely to see their plans come to frui -- uh, wait.

(November 24, 2015 at 12:28 pm)Clueless Morgan Wrote: [quote='Catholic_Lady' pid='1122436' dateline='1448381831']
At this point in my life I feel certain that God is real. But I have had doubts before.

So in Dawkins Scale speak you'd be a 1 or 2?  Or maybe a 1.0000000001

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Haha, well I think he was a little loaded in the way he wrote #1. I dunno. It's not that I have never questioned, or that I never weigh possibilities in my head, it's that at this point I always come to the firm conclusion that there is a God. The way he wrote it made it sound like the person never actually thinks about it. But yes, I feel as certain that God is real as I am certain that my husband loves me. And that feels 100% certain.