(November 29, 2015 at 8:37 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Suppose you really, really, love baseball?

I suppose any precedence could be set. There is a woman in the US who now happily sports a collander on her head, in the photo of her driver's license, so anything is possible.  

The Swiss want to see the horses they are banging.

(November 29, 2015 at 8:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As much as I hate burqas and what they stand for, a person should have the freedom to wear whatever they want or whatever they think they want.

Agree with that CL. Just as I would like to wear a balaclava round the shopping mall if I want to. However I would expect to be asked to remove it if I wanted to enter, for instance, a bank, or indeed any other private premises whose owners were uncomfortable with not being able to see my face. Wear what you like in public as a matter of personal freedom (so long as it conforms to laws on decency etc.), but don't expect to be welcomed into my shop or house. Also expect extra scrutiny from the authorities in these times.
To that extent I disagree with the French ban.

Grimesy

(November 29, 2015 at 8:39 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(November 29, 2015 at 8:23 pm)Dystopia Wrote: I support banning anything that doesn't allow facial recognition. Goodbye burka, you won't be missed.

Hmmm, perhaps shades should be banned too.

Shades don't prevent facial recognition, it just makes it harder. I don't see a lot of cases (I'm sure there's some tough) of robberies where people are wearing solely sunglasses.

(November 29, 2015 at 9:24 pm)Dystopia Wrote:

(November 29, 2015 at 8:39 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Hmmm, perhaps shades should be banned too.

Shades don't prevent facial recognition, it just makes it harder. I don't see a lot of cases (I'm sure there's some tough) of robberies where people are wearing solely sunglasses.

I'd have to kill someone if they asked me remove my shades. Light is sickeningly painful, and I'd pitch a serious fit if you tried to expose me to direct sunlight

Banning certain clothing is stupid. I think when it comes to something like this you have to remove the religious element from it entirely and judge it on that. So if there were no religion would anybody ever ban full body clothing? No of course not.

(November 29, 2015 at 7:56 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Yes. Good move.  Nothing reduces terrorism as much as collective guilting and vindictive harassment.  Besides, Burka is as essential to the female suicide bomber as the detonator.  [...]

While not "essential" burkas are useful tool for people trying to escape justice, regardless of gender. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...n-bid.html

Quote:After spending several hours in the dilapidated An-Noor Masjid (mosque) and community centre on Church Road in Acton, west London, he sliced off his electronic tag, slipped on a burka and vanished

http://www.news.com.au/national/burqa-we...6080347298

Quote:Carnita Matthews, 47, was sentenced to six months jail for making a deliberately false statement that a policeman tried to lift her burqa.

In June last year, she was pulled over for a random breath test but went on to accuse the police officer of racism when he booked her for failing to display her P-plates.

She was charged with making a false complaint at Campbelltown police station but Judge Clive Jeffreys this week quashed her conviction, saying identity could not be proven.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/420395/...-assistant

Quote:A BRAVE shop assistant foiled armed robbers disguised in burkas as they attempted to raid a jewellers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-raid.html

Quote:A robber disguised as a Muslim mother wheeling a pram is being sought by police after helping an armed gang raid a jewellers.

...and so on.
I'm not saying I'm pro-ban, but burkas are really f***ing convenient for criminals.

I want to wear a strap-on and Mexican wrestling mask in public.

(November 30, 2015 at 12:25 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(November 29, 2015 at 7:56 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Yes. Good move.  Nothing reduces terrorism as much as collective guilting and vindictive harassment.  Besides, Burka is as essential to the female suicide bomber as the detonator.  [...]

While not "essential" burkas are useful tool for people trying to escape justice, regardless of gender. 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/t...n-bid.html

Quote:After spending several hours in the dilapidated An-Noor Masjid (mosque) and community centre on Church Road in Acton, west London, he sliced off his electronic tag, slipped on a burka and vanished

http://www.news.com.au/national/burqa-we...6080347298

Quote:Carnita Matthews, 47, was sentenced to six months jail for making a deliberately false statement that a policeman tried to lift her burqa.

In June last year, she was pulled over for a random breath test but went on to accuse the police officer of racism when he booked her for failing to display her P-plates.

She was charged with making a false complaint at Campbelltown police station but Judge Clive Jeffreys this week quashed her conviction, saying identity could not be proven.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/420395/...-assistant

Quote:A BRAVE shop assistant foiled armed robbers disguised in burkas as they attempted to raid a jewellers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-raid.html

Quote:A robber disguised as a Muslim mother wheeling a pram is being sought by police after helping an armed gang raid a jewellers.

...and so on.
I'm not saying I'm pro-ban, but burkas are really f***ing convenient for criminals.

I'm probably one of the more critical people of Islam on these forums, but banning burkas makes no sense whatsoever. Unless you want to ban sunglasses or scarfs worn too high or any number of things then it makes no sense.

(November 30, 2015 at 1:39 am)The_Empress Wrote: I want to wear a strap-on and Mexican wrestling mask in public.

I would support your right to do such.