(November 30, 2015 at 3:59 pm)Vic Wrote: Closure is one thing, revenge is another. The latter isn't very healthy, though it may feel good in the moment.

You keep calling it revenge.

I'd rather call it justice for a man who's been taken for a mug.

Not sure why it's such a zero sum game - both of them can be complete cock ups for completely different reasons without taking away from either of the others cock up.

(November 30, 2015 at 4:05 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Not sure why it's such a zero sum game - both of them can be complete cock ups for completely different reasons without taking away from either of the others cock up.

Nobody said it was. What I'm saying is I don't think he did anything wrong period. 

He didn't go out and murder anyone. He didn't post her address on the fucking front page of reddit and tell everyone to send her shit. He just posted a video to embarass someone that IMO deserves to be embarassed. She lost all sympathy (and fucks) by cheating on him.

The guy will have no other justice besides what he did, and as the video shows, it's actually relatively little fuss. He just basically tricked her before leaving. It's only the fact that it went viral that people are talking about shaming in the first place. Otherwise no one would give a toss. 

Either way, as I've said, I just think fair play. It was relatively inventive of him to do what he did, and involved no violence or confrontation. He pulled his prank and left. End of. 1-0. I think he's entitled to that when he's been cheated on by this utter slapper, who if it was the other way around (it was a bloke doing the cheating), we'd all have absolutely no problem with shaming. And I will call anyone who says we would a liar.

Revenge is not justice, even if it makes the side who did nothing wrong feel better, it is not justice. No one should be punished "because they deserve it", there is no free will... people should be punished as a deterrent and a way to mitigate suffering. Acts of revenge are destructive. And even if it gives you a temporary rush, where there is revenge there is bitterness and resentment, and that is self-destructive... revenge can often hurt the avenger more than the person it is directed at. "Retributive justice" is unjust... and countereffective.

Just my two cents/two pence.

(November 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Evie Wrote: Revenge is not justice, even if it makes the side who did nothing wrong, it is not justice. No one should be punished "because they deserve it", there is no free will... people should be punished as a deterrent and a way to mitigate suffering. Acts of revenge are destructive.

Just my two cents/two pence.

I don't even look at it as either to be fair. It's other people that are intent on calling it revenge.

I'd rather say he just handled it like a fucking boss and he's clearly moved on. Everything he did in the video doesn't even look to me as though he did it to spite her, daft as people will inevitably find it. It's actually more about him conquering a shit situation and turning it into a positive for himself.

Like a "fucking boss"?

I think the best way to handle it would have been to just move on without the shaming. Better for everyone that way.

I don't consider behaving like a "fucking boss" to be the most mature or ethical way to act.

Sure cheating is immature and unethical too but then that's the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque fallacy.

(November 30, 2015 at 3:42 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(November 30, 2015 at 3:41 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm home sick all day and super bored.

I'll keep you company for a couple of hours.

Pics please

(November 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm)Losty Wrote:

(November 30, 2015 at 3:42 pm)Beccs Wrote: I'll keep you company for a couple of hours.

Pics please

My pics are all on FB.

And you've seen most of the good ones.

None of which I can post on the open forum.

(November 30, 2015 at 4:14 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(November 30, 2015 at 4:05 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Not sure why it's such a zero sum game - both of them can be complete cock ups for completely different reasons without taking away from either of the others cock up.

Nobody said it was. What I'm saying is I don't think he did anything wrong period. 

He didn't go out and murder anyone. He didn't post her address on the fucking front page of reddit and tell everyone to send her shit. He just posted a video to embarass someone that IMO deserves to be embarassed. She lost all sympathy (and fucks) by cheating on him.

The guy will have no other justice besides what he did, and as the video shows, it's actually relatively little fuss. He just basically tricked her before leaving. It's only the fact that it went viral that people are talking about shaming in the first place. Otherwise no one would give a toss. 

Either way, as I've said, I just think fair play. It was relatively inventive of him to do what he did, and involved no violence or confrontation. He pulled his prank and left. End of. 1-0. I think he's entitled to that when he's been cheated on by this utter slapper, who if it was the other way around (it was a bloke doing the cheating), we'd all have absolutely no problem with shaming. And I will call anyone who says we would a liar.

We don't know these people. We have no way of knowing if she really cheated or if he's just a paranoid bastard. We have no way of knowing if he cheated on her. We have no way of knowing anything about either of these people except for that one is exceptionally spectacular at dildo karaoke.

(November 30, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(November 30, 2015 at 4:32 pm)Losty Wrote: Pics please

My pics are all on FB.

And you've seen most of the good ones.

None of which I can post on the open forum.

I meant pics of you keeping CL company