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Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
RE: Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
Brian, I did not know that men could get aroused while they are being raped until Stimbo told me yesterday. But I *definitely* never said I thought rape is "strictly about a man getting a boner and enjoying the vaginal penetration."

No, I did not start the thread. So I don't know why you're rambling on about believers "asking you if you do horrible things to others," unless you're trying to accuse *me* of being the poe who did lol.

Anyway, did you see my PM? People are getting tired of us having this discussion on the thread. If you want to continue to have this discussion, let's do everyone a favor and move it on to the PM, shall we? Smile
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
Sorry, I haven't even read through most of the discussion here yet, but I just have to say what the FUCK is wrong with you, OP?? I hope this was ONLY meant to be inflammatory...
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
(December 17, 2015 at 7:16 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Sorry, I haven't even read through most of the discussion here yet, but I just have to say what the FUCK is wrong with you, OP??  I hope this was ONLY meant to be inflammatory...

The OP is a troll lol.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
People find strange ways to spend their free time...lol
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
(December 17, 2015 at 7:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Brian, I did not know that men could get aroused while they are being raped until Stimbo told me yesterday. But I *definitely* never said I thought rape is "strictly about a man getting a boner and enjoying the vaginal penetration."

No, I did not start the thread. So I don't know why you're rambling on about believers "asking you if you do horrible things to others," unless you're trying to accuse *me* of being the poe who did lol.  

Anyway, did you see my PM? People are getting tired of us having this discussion on the thread. If you want to continue to have this discussion, let's do everyone a favor and move it on to the PM, shall we? Smile

UGGGGGGGGGG,,,,,,, why do you think I said "some morons".......... I think you are making this out to be something it is not.

Not equating you to that poe, now if you took it that way that is your baggage, not mine.

And FYI what you just did is not really calling someone out by talking about private pms in a public thread, but I wouldn't advise talking about PMs in public threads. Years ago I started a thread calling someone out, the admins here pulled me aside and told me that was a big no no. If I chose to respond to a pm that is up to me, but that happens in PM not here. And no, I do not wish to have a separate debate about you and me about personality differences in a PM.

Now the issue is rape, not you not me. the OP is the moron. You learned something new today, good for you. Seems like we have covered everything.
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RE: Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
(December 17, 2015 at 7:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You learned something new today

Yesterday. Wink

Now that we've both wasted our time for a few hours, time to move on.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
(December 17, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 17, 2015 at 5:49 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: .....I just thought you should know clearly that arousal is not consent.....

LOL, I never said it was. That's why I keep saying you're strawmanning. Did you read the post you are responding to? And all the other posts I have been writing for the past 4 pages? 


Quote: I never said it isn't rape if he's aroused.
 
I even bolded it in blue for you up top, for your convenience. 
And there's this too, which was a post I made to YOU specifically, just last night: 
 
(December 17, 2015 at 12:21 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think it matters. Rape is rape, arousal or not. All I was saying was that I'm surprised to learn men can get aroused during rape. The strawmen are strong in this thread.

Soooo yeah, this is really bizarre lol. I don't understand why I'm accused of saying it's not rape if there's arousal.

Nothing bizarre here, CL, except maybe the question you raised (presuming you are an adult). I wansn't quite sure that you understood clearly enough, and I wanted to make sure, that's all.

(December 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(December 17, 2015 at 6:18 pm)Losty Wrote: I didn't read the whole thing but I've seen two posts by two people saying they're not accusing you of saying that. So I still think it looks like both sides arguing for no reason.

 Well just so you don't think I'm going nuts, here is where they both make accusations:

(December 17, 2015 at 5:49 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: No, CL, I don't think you downplayed rape, I just thought you should know clearly that arousal is not consent, and how one should go about it if they ever decide to do anything kinky. 


(December 17, 2015 at 9:19 am)Brian37 Wrote: Some morons think rape is strictly about a man getting a boner and enjoying the vaginal penetration. 
The "moron" he is referring to is me, btw.  
So, as you can see, I'm being accused of thinking arousal = consent, and of thinking rape is only a vaginal penetration of male on female.

I think you're reading too much into this. I suppose I did too. Maybe Brian as well, as with everyone else involved in this pile-up.

There, misunderstanding cleared up! Can we all move on now?
Mr. Hanky loves you!
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RE: Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
I think it's important to bear in mind that we get a lot of lurkers, random invisible people who stumble into these threads from Out There (scared yet?). Some of them go on to be members while most don't. Those are the ones who go away with an out of context snapshot of what this place is about. So sometimes it's useful to make clear things that people here may not need clarifying, just for the people playing at home. It's rarely personal. Now I think we've all made our positions quite clear and I don't think any of us were trying to strawman anyone, at least not intentionally, so I'm glad to see the hatchet being buried. Let it stay there, m'kay?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
(December 17, 2015 at 8:31 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(December 17, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: LOL, I never said it was. That's why I keep saying you're strawmanning. Did you read the post you are responding to? And all the other posts I have been writing for the past 4 pages? 


 
I even bolded it in blue for you up top, for your convenience. 
And there's this too, which was a post I made to YOU specifically, just last night: 
 

Soooo yeah, this is really bizarre lol. I don't understand why I'm accused of saying it's not rape if there's arousal.

Nothing bizarre here, CL, except maybe the question you raised (presuming you are an adult). I wansn't quite sure that you understood clearly enough, and I wanted to make sure, that's all.

(December 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:  Well just so you don't think I'm going nuts, here is where they both make accusations:



The "moron" he is referring to is me, btw.  
So, as you can see, I'm being accused of thinking arousal = consent, and of thinking rape is only a vaginal penetration of male on female.

I think you're reading too much into this. I suppose I did too. Maybe Brian as well, as with everyone else involved in this pile-up.

There, misunderstanding cleared up! Can we all move on now?

Sounds good to me!
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?
(December 16, 2015 at 7:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: How is this possible, though? I assume a guy about to be raped probably won't get an erection.  Undecided

I just want to mention, that men can and often do get erections while being strangled to death, or hanged. That's just because of our physiology and the fact, that our bodies were demonstrably not designed by any intelligence. In fact, for a young man it's not getting an erection, that's the trick in most situations. That changes somewhat with age, often into the opposite extreme, but if you ever have a problem getting an erection from a guy - I recommend digital massage of the prostate. He might be freaked out at first, but if he's already getting raped, that's hardly a factor... Tongue

Oh, yeah - there are also pills you can use, that give men erections, whether they want them, or not. And there are animal venoms, that also do that - like that of a brazillian wandering spider (Phoneutria). So - the possibilities are endless...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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