This just in - how to 'shake God':



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(February 6, 2016 at 9:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To realize who you are is a magical thing. You are magical and magic. The magic is constantly being created and has a link to an ultimate source.

I suppose it'd be asking too much for a link to a reputable source?

(February 6, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(February 6, 2016 at 7:59 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I would say everyone in their heart knows God exists, and some are better than others at suppressing that. Some are angry at God, and some need more evidence before they accept that subconscious belief. This is why I will never give up pushing the information learned by others through near death experiences. Even if you don't agree and think they are hallucination, the lessons they learned and information they brought back is too important for humanity, and the individual to ignore.

My husband has a subconscious belief that if you express a positive belief that things will go right,  they will go wrong.  It's a common superstition held in the East and in the  West. Many people like my husband know it's irrational,  yet they feel it's true even though they know it isn't.  God is like that for many atheists. So I get what Elizabeth King is talking about.  And if you think about superstitions honestly,  so will you.  It isn't denying what's real, it's denying what's irrational.

But you don't really want to think about it honestly.  You  want to shore up your own faith. No one prays to have faith in evolution,  or gravity, or the big bang. But belief in god requires constant shoring up through prayer.  Think about it.

In the meantime you serve a useful purpose here. You demonstrate to doubting theist lurkers the vaucity of your reasoning.

For a long time in my life I was depressed, and went around acting depressed. Then one day I kind of snapped out of it and realized it was a state of mind I was holding on to and when I let go of it, I realized there was no reason to be depressed and I need to be in control of my thoughts and feelings, and not let the depression take over my life.

So your husband actually goes around thinking negatively and expects positive outcomes?

I actually used to think about whether I should really believe in God, but after 15 years of personal research I believe it is the rational conclusion to draw, even though I can see or touch it or even measure it. I believe there is a God, but I'm not forcing anyone else to. That's a personal decision for everyone to make, and it might change at some point in this life or afterwards, or not.

Has your husband seen the film the secret? It's about the law of attraction, which too a point can be true. If you are positive, you tend to have positive experiences, and if you are negative you tend to have negative experiences. The state of mind can determine your perception at that moment. NOt a great example, but when you smile at someone they generally reciprocate with a smile, and if you frown, they do as well. You can do the same with other actions and emotions.

I bet your husband would find this interesting. It's about the law of attraction, and how to attract what you want into your life by focusing on them, and turning thoughts into things.

Edit. The first one I posted was not the one I watched. this is the first 20 minutes of what I've seen before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8

(February 6, 2016 at 9:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To realize who you are is a magical thing. You are magical and magic. The magic is constantly being created and has a link to an ultimate source.

I guess that's where the saying ignorance is bliss comes from. It truly is magical.

(February 6, 2016 at 11:03 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(February 6, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Jenny A Wrote: My husband has a subconscious belief that if you express a positive belief that things will go right,  they will go wrong.  It's a common superstition held in the East and in the  West. Many people like my husband know it's irrational,  yet they feel it's true even though they know it isn't.  God is like that for many atheists. So I get what Elizabeth King is talking about.  And if you think about superstitions honestly,  so will you.  It isn't denying what's real, it's denying what's irrational.

But you don't really want to think about it honestly.  You  want to shore up your own faith. No one prays to have faith in evolution,  or gravity, or the big bang. But belief in god requires constant shoring up through prayer.  Think about it.

In the meantime you serve a useful purpose here. You demonstrate to doubting theist lurkers the vaucity of your reasoning.

For a long time in my life I was depressed, and went around acting depressed. Then one day I kind of snapped out of it and realized it was a state of mind I was holding on to and when I let go of it, I realized there was no reason to be depressed and I need to be in control of my thoughts and feelings, and not let the depression take over my life.

So your husband actually goes around thinking negatively and expects positive outcomes?

I actually used to think about whether I should really believe in God, but after 15 years of personal research I believe it is the rational conclusion to draw, even though I can see or touch it or even measure it. I believe there is a God, but I'm not forcing anyone else to. That's a personal decision for everyone to make, and it might change at some point in this life or afterwards, or not.

Has your husband seen the film the secret? It's about the law of attraction, which too a point can be true. If you are positive, you tend to have positive experiences, and if you are negative you tend to have negative experiences. The state of mind can determine your perception at that moment. NOt a great example, but when you smile at someone they generally reciprocate with a smile, and if you frown, they do as well. You can do the same with other actions and emotions.

I bet your husband would find this interesting. It's about the law of attraction, and how to attract what you want into your life by focusing on them, and turning thoughts into things.

Edit. The first one I posted was not the one I watched. this is the first 20 minutes of what I've seen before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b1GKGWJbE8

Just because you believe that god exists, does not make him exist.

There's a difference between being happy and accepting reality, and being happy in spite of reality.

(February 6, 2016 at 9:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To realize who you are is a magical thing. You are magical and magic. The magic is constantly being created and has a link to an ultimate source.

Yeah, I wonder if it's going to feel so "magical", when one day you realize, that who you are is - basically - a deluded ape, making up vague self-serving nonsense.

Hey, if you're dumb enough tying shoe-laces seems like magic, because your brain can't figure out how that works. So I'm not surprised, that religious people think their own farts are a form of sorcery...

(February 6, 2016 at 11:16 pm)Heat Wrote:

(February 6, 2016 at 9:55 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: To realize who you are is a magical thing. You are magical and magic. The magic is constantly being created and has a link to an ultimate source.

I guess that's where the saying ignorance is bliss comes from. It truly is magical.

Highly relevant.

(February 4, 2016 at 10:10 pm)athrock Wrote: Turns out it's pretty hard to believe in nothing when your psyche is wired for faith.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/postevery...age%2Fcard

After reading the article, my questions are:

Why on God's green earth is the human brain wired for faith when our development is the result of purely evolutionary processes with no supreme being involved at all?

Is it possible that God gave us brains that are pre-wired for receptivity to His existence to make it easier for us to believe in Him?

Where the fuck is your god's green earth? I've never seen that!

Your brain may be pre-wired for receptivity to suggestion, and it all comes from other people who seed your brain with ideas on (insert god of your culture, not necessarily YHWH). Later, your mental reflections may produce ideas which you think came from your god, because that's what those people said would happen, but the truth is it comes down to their suggestions working on your own thoughts.

(February 6, 2016 at 11:03 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(February 6, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

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My husband has a subconscious belief that if you express a positive belief that things will go right,  they will go wrong.  It's a common superstition held in the East and in the  West. Many people like my husband know it's irrational,  yet they feel it's true even though they know it isn't.  God is like that for many atheists. So I get what Elizabeth King is talking about.  And if you think about superstitions honestly,  so will you.  It isn't denying what's real, it's denying what's irrational.

But you don't really want to think about it honestly.  You  want to shore up your own faith. No one prays to have faith in evolution,  or gravity, or the big bang. But belief in god requires constant shoring up through prayer.  Think about it.

In the meantime you serve a useful purpose here. You demonstrate to doubting theist lurkers the vaucity ]

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For a long time in my life I was depressed, and went around acting depressed. Then one day I kind of snapped out of it and realized it was a state of mind I was holding on to and when I let go of it, I realized there was no reason to be depressed and I need to be in control of my thoughts and feelings, and not let the depression take over my life.

So your husband actually goes around thinking negatively and expects positive outcomes?

I actually used to think about whether I should really believe in God, but after 15 years of personal research I believe it is the rational conclusion to draw, even though I can see or touch it or even measure it. I believe there is a God, but I'm not forcing anyone else to. That's a personal decision for everyone to make, and it might change at some point in this life or afterwards, or not.

Has your husband seen the film the secret? It's about the law of attraction, which too a point can be true. If you are positive, you tend to have positive experiences, and if you are negative you tend to have negative experiences. The state of mind can determine your perception at that moment. NOt a great example, but when you smile at someone they generally reciprocate with a smile, and if you frown, they do as well. You can do the same with other actions and emotions.

I bet your husband would find this interesting. It's about the law of attraction, and how to attract what you want into your life by focusing on them, and turning thoughts into things.

Edit. The first one I posted was not the one I watched. this is the first 20 minutes of what I've seen before.

You are equating thinking that it will rain, if you say it won't rain with negative thinking. That's more than a little silly.