(April 5, 2016 at 1:18 pm)Dayron Wrote: It's quite obvious that deporting Muslims would arouse scandal. Seriously, instead of deporting them I propose to, first of all, close Western borders for refugees and mere immigrants from Islamic countries, due to a danger related to intensified recent bombings. Also, we should stop allowing Muslims building their temples in Europe. I don't care if you were born here or you're a foreigner.

There's that small business of international treaties and conventions. Some dating back more than a century, aimed to make the world a more humane place. There's also the small business of religious freedom. There's also the fact, I know this is an alien word to people like you, that only 4 percent of terrorist attacks are religiously motivated in the USA and Europe. And that's not even singling out Islamist terror, but all religiously motivated terror. According to FBI as well as Europol statistics in the public domain.

So, bullshittery of the highest order, as is to be expected from someone having that kind of mindset.

(April 5, 2016 at 7:08 pm)abaris Wrote: There's that small business of international treaties and conventions. Some dating back more than a century, aimed to make the world a more humane place. There's also the small business of religious freedom. There's also the fact, I know this is an alien word to people like you, that only 4 percent of terrorist attacks are religiously motivated in the USA and Europe. And that's not even singling out Islamist terror, but all religiously motivated terror. According to FBI as well as Europol statistics in the public domain.

So, bullshittery of the highest order, as is to be expected from someone having that kind of mindset.

So, why are Nazism, fascism and communism banned in so many countries? Isn't there something like political freedom? Why can't we create fascist parties or build temples for uncle Adolf? Islam only destabilizes the West, and is the same odious ideology as Nazism, fascism and communism. Therefore, it should be repressed as well.

I'm not really interested in statistics. I believe in what I see, and I see that most recent terrorist attacks or rape cases were brought by Muslims, those religiously motivated. Of course, terrorism and sick gruesome aspects of Mideastern/African culture don't apply to all Muslims. As well, concentration camps and death of 11 million people don't apply to all Nazis. 

Wait, you saw rapes, and you knew they were religiously motivated?

What did you do? Did you intervene? Did you call the police?

It makes me sadder than I can describe in words when I see a person who can't recognize the degree to which their opinion of something has been shaped by a media industry that makes its money from sensationalism (read: fear), and then when you try to show them the actual statistics they're simply not interested because they prefer to cling to their fear rather than learning something.

It makes me wary, not sad. I get what you're saying, and I do feel bad for the minds and lives lost due to channelized thinking -- but before that sadness, I must first be alert so that those who are netter do not snare me as well.

Fear is a powerful drug.

Unlike anything else, there will always be things for you to be afraid of. One can live and breath on fear as though it were a stimulant, if they choose to do so.

Always be wary of other people telling you what to be afraid of. They are high on the drug of fear, and once one's thoughts are possessed by fear rarely does logic persist, rarely do those thoughts generate rationality. Therefore, rarely should you trust someone obsessed with fear, they gravitate toward others who fear the same so they can provide justification to it, if someone wants you to fear the same as them, it's because they need your participation to justify their own.

(April 7, 2016 at 4:37 am)Heat Wrote: Fear is a powerful drug.

And there are politicians and certain media outlets feeding on it like vampires.

It's funny isnt it. How fear prays on the most vulnerable, yet the people who are the most fearful of muslim terrorists are the same ones acting big and tough and telling us to go bomb syria in order to eradicate it.

(April 7, 2016 at 7:35 am)Heat Wrote: It's funny isnt it. How fear prays on the most vulnerable, yet the people who are the most fearful of muslim terrorists are the same ones acting big and tough and telling us to go bomb syria in order to eradicate it.

Because it's not terrorism when your country bombs people into doing what you want them to do!

(April 7, 2016 at 4:15 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Because it's not terrorism when your country bombs people into doing what you want them to do!

Which usually achieves quite the opposite of what your goal is. If someone were to bomb my family and friends to smitherins, to call them collaterals, I would consider joining the enemy of my enemy also. It's a first class PR strategy, just like running a recruitment office for ISIS or any other given group fighting the west.