http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/bill-mah...magic-act/

Watch the video.

That was epic.

Of course, there's an option to taxing churches. Allow them to keep their tax-exempt status, in return for which no churches or church members may access publicly-funded utilities or services. This means that no one may drive to church on a road built with tax monies, may connect to an electrical grid built with tax money, or may send their children to publically-funded schools. Further, no church or church member may call on the services of the police or the fire brigade, or utilize publically financed medical services. They may not ride a train (surface or underground) or a bus operated or subsidized by any level of government. They may not take part in government insurance or pension schemes, and may not seek help from government authorities in times of disaster.

I cannot enter my local cinema without buying a ticket, so I fail to see why accepting a delusional fairy tale should allow religionists to make me buy their ticket for them (this bit is a metaphor - it isn't really about cinema tickets).

Boru

(April 16, 2016 at 4:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course, there's an option to taxing churches.  Allow them to keep their tax-exempt status, in return for which no churches or church members may access publicly-funded utilities or services.  This means that no one may drive to church on a road built with tax monies, may connect to an electrical grid built with tax money, or may send their children to publically-funded schools.  Further, no church or church member may call on the services of the police or the fire brigade, or utilize publically financed medical services.  They may not ride a train (surface or underground) or a bus operated or subsidized by any level of government.  They may not take part in government insurance or pension schemes, and may not seek help from government authorities in times of disaster.

I cannot enter my local cinema without buying a ticket, so I fail to see why accepting a delusional fairy tale should allow religionists to make me buy their ticket for them (this bit is a metaphor - it isn't really about cinema tickets).

Boru

You forgot the big one:  no church member can be a politician or public official of any kind.

(April 16, 2016 at 4:15 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 4:37 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course, there's an option to taxing churches.  Allow them to keep their tax-exempt status, in return for which no churches or church members may access publicly-funded utilities or services.  This means that no one may drive to church on a road built with tax monies, may connect to an electrical grid built with tax money, or may send their children to publically-funded schools.  Further, no church or church member may call on the services of the police or the fire brigade, or utilize publically financed medical services.  They may not ride a train (surface or underground) or a bus operated or subsidized by any level of government.  They may not take part in government insurance or pension schemes, and may not seek help from government authorities in times of disaster.

I cannot enter my local cinema without buying a ticket, so I fail to see why accepting a delusional fairy tale should allow religionists to make me buy their ticket for them (this bit is a metaphor - it isn't really about cinema tickets).

Boru

You forgot the big one:  no church member can be a politician or public official of any kind.

Would you extend that to others who don't pay taxes -- say, the poor?

The poor pay plenty of taxes...especially the regressive kind like sales and gasoline taxes that hit them harder than rich motherfuckers.  There's nothing the republicunts like better than regressive taxation.

(April 16, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 4:15 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: You forgot the big one:  no church member can be a politician or public official of any kind.

Would you extend that to others who don't pay taxes -- say, the poor?

Min beat me to it - the poor - depending on how you define them - pay taxes of several sorts. But even if they didn't, the cases aren't parallel. The poor (here, at least) are exempt from certain taxes because they cannot afford to pay them. Religious organisations are exempt from certain taxes even when they can afford to pay them.

Boru

(April 16, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 4:15 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: You forgot the big one:  no church member can be a politician or public official of any kind.

Would you extend that to others who don't pay taxes -- say, the poor?

Are poor people politicians or public officials?

Not in this reality!

(April 16, 2016 at 10:39 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(April 16, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Would you extend that to others who don't pay taxes -- say, the poor?

Are poor people politicians or public officials?

Is/ought fallacy spotted.

Quit dissimulating, and quit thinking with your typical sloppiness, and answer the question, rather than focus on one example offered.

If you need me to repost it because you can't find it in the above quote, let me know.