(May 24, 2016 at 8:42 pm)Godschild Wrote:  We are told in the NT that our faith can and will become knowledge of God, so you see we have a knowledge unknown to you, a greater knowledge.

GC

Unfortunately, that is not knowledge. If it was true knowledge, it would be something readily available to all without the suspension of reality. Psychology has already done an adequate job of providing us with an understanding of delusion, and faith quite fits that mold.

(May 24, 2016 at 8:41 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote:  You need to stay out of the simple things you do not understand, his original post to me was about all Christians.

 GC

Oh, I finally touched a nerve.

Apologies to Godschild, but I'm laughing out loud.

Love it when you touch those nerves. Kinda like foreplay

(May 24, 2016 at 9:27 am)Jehanne Wrote:

(May 23, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: Everyone needs to forget the recanting and understand these people died for their belief in who Jesus was, the Messiah. That means they believed in the virgin birth, his life lived sinless on earth, his death and resurrection and that He is the Son of God. So with this said, yes they believed in his resurrection.

 There is only one place Jesus life is recorded, the Bible and that is where we have to start and end, the rest spoken here and by others over the ages and around the world are only speculation, and everyone admits they are speculation. No evidence has ever been offered to these speculation and it's certainly true no facts have been produced for them. So why do people accept single accounts about history and claim them as truth when no facts or evidence are produced. Shouldn't the records of the NT be accepted as the other history, but then the atheist would have to believe right, right. So people dismiss the NT so they can reject God, now this is a logical conclusion a true statement.

 All the different speculations given in this thread are childish at best, why, because they do not consider the NT account to be true, none of it, yet there is no proof given that the biblical account is not the truth, only speculations. Most of the speculation twist what the Bible says so those people can speculate, is this the honesty we should expect from anyone, no, this is a moving moral standard to satisfy those who have no desire to believe. 

GC

This is just absolutely false, pitiful nonsense.  There is NO evidence that anyone was martyred by the Romans for just professing the newly formed Christian faith.  Other than the tale of James in Acts, which was written near the end of the first century, there is no documented evidence that the Romans persecuted Christians during the first century, other than Nero, who did persecute them in Rome around 64 AD.  But, other than that rare exception, none of the disciples were martyred for the Christian faith; those tales do not come into print until well until the second century.

 The nonsense belongs to you and you have admitted this in this very post. You start off saying and I quote "NO evidence", then you go on to confirm that Christians were killed by Nero, and if you do not think that the Christians of the day didn't consider them martyrs then why did Christianity spread so rapidly. Use your reasoning, think about it. Do you have proof that the apostles weren't killed for their beliefs, because they did not go around breaking Roman law.

GC

(May 24, 2016 at 8:48 pm)Gemini Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 8:41 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Oh, I finally touched a nerve.

Apologies to Godschild, but I'm laughing out loud.

Love it when you touch those nerves. Kinda like foreplay

 No nerves touched here just giving the truth. It's not me who replies to all the atheist post with sarcasm and name calling. No apology is necessary laugh until you can't stand it no more, God says those types of reactions to Christians will be counted as reward for Christians. The atheist here are helping the Christians here to receive countless rewards.

GC

(May 24, 2016 at 8:56 pm)Godschild Wrote: God says those types of reactions to Christians will be counted as reward for Christians.
GC

By no means are you overjoyed with the concept of our demise for your own reward. No, not at all.

(May 24, 2016 at 8:56 pm)Godschild Wrote: No nerves touched here just giving the truth. It's not me who replies to all the atheist post with sarcasm and name calling. No apology is necessary laugh until you can't stand it no more, God says those types of reactions to Christians will be counted as reward for Christians. The atheist here are helping the Christians here to receive countless rewards.

So the more I abuse you, the more God rewards you.

It's kinda like...

...S&M?

We can keep this up if you want. Want me to keep laughing? More rewards for you!

(May 24, 2016 at 8:45 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 8:42 pm)Godschild Wrote:  We are told in the NT that our faith can and will become knowledge of God, so you see we have a knowledge unknown to you, a greater knowledge.

GC

Unfortunately, that is not knowledge.  If it was true knowledge, it would be something readily available to all without the suspension of reality.  Psychology has already done an adequate job of providing us with an understanding of delusion, and faith quite fits that mold.

 Wrong again, I see you know nothing about the scriptures, this knowledge is spiritual knowledge that only Christians are able to gain, the unbeliever must come to Christ in faith first and foremost. I knew you were delusional, for by what you just posted a man who sits down in a chair without first checking it's stability has to be delusional.

GC

(May 24, 2016 at 9:01 pm)Gemini Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 8:56 pm)Godschild Wrote: No nerves touched here just giving the truth. It's not me who replies to all the atheist post with sarcasm and name calling. No apology is necessary laugh until you can't stand it no more, God says those types of reactions to Christians will be counted as reward for Christians. The atheist here are helping the Christians here to receive countless rewards.

So the more I abuse you, the more God rewards you.

It's kinds like...

...S&M?

We can keep this up if you want. Want me to keep laughing? More rewards for you!

 Sure as long as you are serious about it, God doesn't play games, so you might want to be very careful.

GC

I'm out of here for now a show on Egyptian tombs is starting.

GC

(May 24, 2016 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 8:35 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: The biblical world was not the whole wide world either.

Everything that took place in the bible took place in one very small area of the world.

Think of that.

I mean it, try to think for once in your life.

 You need to stay out of the simple things you do not understand, his original post to me was about all Christians.

 GC

You mean the 40,000+ odd sects of xtians?