Quote: the synopics which are plagirisms of Matthew and John

"Mark" was first.  Matty and Luke are fan fics based on it.  John comes out of left field.

(May 25, 2016 at 11:23 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote: the synopics which are plagirisms of Matthew and John

"Mark" was first.  Matty and Luke are fan fics based on it.  John comes out of left field.

I always mess up Matthew and Mark myself.

Far less so than the shithead who wrote it!

(May 24, 2016 at 8:58 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 8:56 pm)Godschild Wrote: God says those types of reactions to Christians will be counted as reward for Christians.
GC

By no means are you overjoyed with the concept of our demise for your own reward.  No, not at all.

 You make your own demise, God nor I have anything to do with it.

GC

(May 24, 2016 at 9:09 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 9:01 pm)Godschild Wrote:  Wrong again, I see you know nothing about the scriptures,
GC

I honestly tire of theists constantly claiming that atheists are ignorant of scripture.

The truth is that the theist has a bias in which he must protect his belief through apologetics, and that takes the form of telling me I know nothing of the bible or that which is written in it.

 Understand this, you know little of what the scriptures say, you make it obvious by your statements about Christians and the Bible. So tired you may be but it's the truth.

GC

Poor G-C.  You really think this ancient shit is holy, don't you.  Time to grow up, son.

(May 24, 2016 at 9:32 pm)dom.donald Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 9:03 pm)Godschild Wrote:  Sure as long as you are serious about it, God doesn't play games, so you might want to be very careful.

GC

How do you know that God doesn't play games?

In fact, that's an interesting question. Being omniscient, He would know who was going to win. Being omnipotent, He would always be able to win. Being omnibenevolent, would he sometimes let someone else win?

 You must not have understood what I meant, God doesn't take lightly to others poking fun at His children when it's done with malice. Herod found out how God can respond, I doubt you would call Herod's situation benevolent. Actually here's a good question where did you get that God's omnibenevolent, please supply a source.

GC

(May 24, 2016 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 8:35 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: The biblical world was not the whole wide world either.

Everything that took place in the bible took place in one very small area of the world.

Think of that.

I mean it, try to think for once in your life.

 You need to stay out of the simple things you do not understand, his original post to me was about all Christians.

 GC

Uh, no, I was talking about the first believers in Jesus.

(May 24, 2016 at 10:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(May 24, 2016 at 8:51 pm)Godschild Wrote:  The nonsense belongs to you and you have admitted this in this very post. You start off saying and I quote "NO evidence", then you go on to confirm that Christians were killed by Nero, and if you do not think that the Christians of the day didn't consider them martyrs then why did Christianity spread so rapidly. Use your reasoning, think about it. Do you have proof that the apostles weren't killed for their beliefs, because they did not go around breaking Roman law.

GC

Roman was a political empire, not a religious one; that bullshit did not come into being under after the reign of Constantine.  The Romans respected burial places, which allowed the early Christians to meet at the catacombs in peace.  Outside of a few isolated areas, persecution of Christians was a rarity.  Usually, individuals were put to death out of obstinacy to the State and not for professing what many Roman intellectuals felt was just another dumb religion on the scene whose proponents, at least in the beginning, all believed in a flat Earth.  (See Saint Irenaeus' justification for the "Four Gospels" in the late second century.)  As for the so-called 12 disciples of Jesus, scholars know little about their fate, including, that of Paul, although, with Paul, there is some evidence that he was martyred in Rome; however, he was such a loon to begin with that the Roman authorities, after Nero's insanity, may have judged him a threat to the Empire and simply have decided to get rid of him.

 You dodged my questions to you, why? Yep, Romans respected burial sites by tossing their victims into pits to rot, now that sounds respectful to me. Tell me how is it you can take a stand for a brutal Roman Empire and yet dismiss the peaceful Christians who were causing no problems. They believed in the things Jesus taught them and one was to obey the laws of the land and be good citizens, kind to all others and no one can rightly fault you. Even though they could not be rightly faulted they were killed, why, for their belief, seems as smart as you are you could figure this out.

GC

(May 24, 2016 at 12:37 am)Irrational Wrote:

(May 23, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: Everyone needs to forget the recanting and understand these people died for their belief in who Jesus was, the Messiah. That means they believed in the virgin birth, his life lived sinless on earth, his death and resurrection and that He is the Son of God. So with this said, yes they believed in his resurrection.

Well, of course, mass delusion

 Even if you meant during the time it still wouldn't apply, there were many thousands by this time and they were spread across a great deal of the Roman Empire.

GC