(June 2, 2016 at 1:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(June 2, 2016 at 10:00 am)dyresand Wrote: If he wins which he won't he would be breaking the agreement on the prevention of nuclear war, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).  
Also the fact being even then if he had the power to nuke someone they would simply refuse the military would not allow such orders to happen
they wouldn't hit that button.

We spend a shitload of money to train soldiers to follow orders.

Either or that is killing millions of people doing that and even more the environmental impact of it would be disastrous.
The oil would be irradiated and yeah... the amount of hate towards the US would be even higher... than it already needs to be.

(June 2, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: What's new with Trump U?

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/this-is-...rning-joe/

Quote:‘This is straight up fraud’: New York’s attorney general shreds Trump University on ‘Morning Joe’

Quote:“Trump’s role was really a the pitchman,” he said. “And we’ve got his videotapes, and we’ve got his sworn testimony which undercuts every statement in the videotapes. He said, ‘My hand-picked experts will teach you my personal secrets.’ He and the president of the university have already testified under oath he never met the instructors, they weren’t hand-picked. They weren’t experts — some of them came out of fast food and retail. And he had nothing to do with the supposed secrets that were taught because he had nothing to do with the curriculum.”

That's just slander.  The AG is full of crap. Why hasn't he gotten a warrant and busted Trump for his alleged crime?  The AG is so incompetent that he can't even get a crooked grand jury to find probable cause for an arrest.

Because, dummy, in this fucking country if you steal billions they call it civil fraud but if you steal $100 bucks from a 7-11 they lock your ass up for 20 years.  And do you know why that happens?  It happens because scum-sucking billionaire pricks like Drumpf own the people who write the fucking laws.

(June 2, 2016 at 5:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Because, dummy, in this fucking country if you steal billions they call it civil fraud but if you steal $100 bucks from a 7-11 they lock your ass up for 20 years.  And do you know why that happens?  It happens because scum-sucking billionaire pricks like Drumpf own the people who write the fucking laws.

Minn, it isn't all wealth that is bad. This is why I hate talking about class. Humans have different personalities and while our climate has sold far too much of the bullshit attitude that "the rich know what is best for everyone", that does not mean all rich people are bad, just that too many greedy people make most of the climate right now.

I'd trust more someone like Bill Gates or Nick Hanauer. Trump is a fucking dick, not because he is rich, the Un Family and Castro family are rich too. Everyone invests in the global market, friend and foe alike. Trump is a sick fuck not because of his wealth, but because of his greed.

It can only be said that global corporatism is far too much a race for profit right now. But not all wealthy people are assholes like Trump.

(June 2, 2016 at 1:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(June 2, 2016 at 10:00 am)dyresand Wrote: If he wins which he won't he would be breaking the agreement on the prevention of nuclear war, the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).  
Also the fact being even then if he had the power to nuke someone they would simply refuse the military would not allow such orders to happen
they wouldn't hit that button.

We spend a shitload of money to train soldiers to follow orders.

Well Jon Stewart did a peace that kind shows our entire history has been, for both parties, a scam. I won't say that all citizens of either party in our entire history are ill willed. But we are still stuck on dominionism and both parties trip over themselves trying to prove they support the troops. Plays well on both parties but it is mostly used to protect the profits of the weapons industry and not the actual soldiers.

We gave the Iraqi army billions of dollars worth of weapons which they threw down and ran as soon as they saw ISIS coming.  I'm sure they could field a great Olympic track team but it takes more than weapons to make a soldier.

We are almost a 3d world nation now.  One military coup would cinch the deal.

(June 2, 2016 at 5:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: We gave the Iraqi army billions of dollars worth of weapons which they threw down and ran as soon as they saw ISIS coming.  I'm sure they could field a great Olympic track team but it takes more than weapons to make a soldier.

We are almost a 3d world nation now.  One military coup would cinch the deal.

Yea, we are a couple of republicans away from that for sure. Which is why we all need to speak out and keep Trump out of the White House.

(June 1, 2016 at 8:19 am)Chad32 Wrote: Sucks when the media actually does its job and holds people's feet to the fire, huh?

I know, right? Imagine investigative journalists actually investigating things. Da noive.....

Boru

(June 2, 2016 at 5:19 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Minn, it isn't all wealth that is bad. This is why I hate talking about class.

Wealth isn't good or bad in itself. It's wealthy people not contributing their fair share and heavily influencing politics that's bad. There are exemptions, but they are in the minority. You hear about Gates, Soros or some select few others on an international level. But you hear even more on the ones evading taxes, bribing politicians and ultimately ruining whole economies. Such as Greece, where the ship owners still are totally exempt from paying taxes. Why do you think that is? The original idea may have been to create more jobs, but their continuing legal tax evasion is probably more down to them owning their politicians.

Reagans trickle down economics was a total disaster because they don't reinvest their dosh in a way that is beneficial to society at large. They ship their excesses out, rather than to create jobs.

Quote:This is why I hate talking about class.

It has to be talked about....because the rich never do seem to learn.