Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: November 8, 2024, 3:23 am
Atheist Forums › Community › Religion v
What makes a religion?

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Thread Modes
What makes a religion?
Losty Offline
LastPoet’s jerkoff #4
*****
Religious Views: Pastafarian
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation: 185
#61
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Why do you get to just make that up?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

0/10

Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Find
Reply
Mystic Offline
Banned
Religious Views: Shiite Muslim Twelver
Posts: 8214
Threads: 394
Joined: November 2, 2011
Reputation: 44
#62
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm)Losty Wrote: Why do you get to just make that up?

What am I making up?
Find
Reply
robvalue Offline
Chainsaw of logic
*****
Religious Views: Time to wake up
Posts: 29107
Threads: 218
Joined: August 9, 2014
Reputation: 155
#63
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
This is arrogance of the highest level, just informing us all of what is true and what isn't. Of course it just happens to be what he believes is true.

I thought MK was better than this. I was wrong.
Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists.

Index of useful threads and discussions
Index of my best videos
Quickstart guide to the forum
Find
Reply
Edwardo Piet Away
Devil's Supercardo.
Religious Views: Atheistic panexperientialism
Posts: 43162
Threads: 720
Joined: September 21, 2008
Reputation: 133
#64
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
Quote:To me that is the religion. It's submission. It's what we embrace and are at peace with.

If that's what religion is then my religion is my own acknowledgement of the futility of fighting against the reality that no one is free to choose what occurs to them.
Find
Reply
Losty Offline
LastPoet’s jerkoff #4
*****
Religious Views: Pastafarian
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation: 185
#65
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:14 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 4:05 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 17, 2016 at 3:59 pm)robvalue Wrote: I don't surrender to anything. Although I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise.

Yes, I will tell you otherwise. I'm sharing my perspective. We always follow something. We always make a choice. What you are embracing to me is a darkness and uncleanness from a magical evil source that afflicts humanity, he and his forces.

It doesn't matter at the end, it's not until when we truthfully embrace God's sword to the extent we let it cut us, and we become it, do we truly submit. Till then there is a lot of deception and trickery going on.

At the end of it, you had Angels with you, and you were connected to the light of Guide of age at all times, and you chose to not embrace that and not to listen to any of it's call. 

To me that is the religion. It's submission. It's what we embrace and are at peace with.

If you are at peace with the false unclean identity and you believe in the falsehood and are at peace with it, that is what you surrender yourself to. You embrace it, you took it as your way, your path, and you followed it.

The light and the true peace and tranquillity, on the other hand, if you hated, you hated.

It's a choice.   We submit either to the truth or to falsehood.

(June 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm)Losty Wrote: Why do you get to just make that up?

What am I making up?

That shit up there ^^^

What's your evidence because it sound like you made it up off the top of your head.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

0/10

Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Find
Reply
Losty Offline
LastPoet’s jerkoff #4
*****
Religious Views: Pastafarian
Posts: 28389
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation: 185
#66
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:15 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm)robvalue Wrote: This is arrogance of the highest level, just informing us all of what is true and what isn't. Of course it just happens to be what he believes is true.

I thought MK was better than this. I was wrong.

Not just what is true, but what we believe. Dodgy

And he said surrender and submission like....no BDSM is not my religion.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay

0/10

Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Find
Reply
Mister Agenda Offline Donators
Donator
*****
Religious Views: Rational skeptic
Posts: 10653
Threads: 15
Joined: September 9, 2011
Reputation: 119
#67
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
MysticKnight Wrote:
Losty Wrote:Ok MK define religion.

What you surrender to and follow to achieve what you value most.

Congratulations on making religion as insignificant as following a sports team. We've been trying to do that for years.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
Find
Reply
IATIA Offline
Complete idiot? Nope. Still missing parts.
****
Religious Views: Mereological Nihilism
Posts: 4196
Threads: 60
Joined: September 8, 2011
Reputation: 30
#68
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm (This post was last modified: June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm by IATIA.)
(June 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Whatever is number 1 and all close to it, in what you value/love, and how you go on about living towards it, is your religion.

Even if you hardly value what you value most, what you value most by definition is what you worship. We never value God as he ought to be valued, all we can do is make him number 1 such that everything pales in how much we value it.

Otherwise, we cannot truly value it at the level due to it.

Here is what I read;

(paraphrase MK)
Everybody worships something. If that something is not the one true god, then one is worshiping a false god.

Commandment #1 - - Thou shalt not have strange gods before thee.

Which means that no matter how good I am, I must go to hell.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
Find
Reply
Edwardo Piet Away
Devil's Supercardo.
Religious Views: Atheistic panexperientialism
Posts: 43162
Threads: 720
Joined: September 21, 2008
Reputation: 133
#69
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 17, 2016 at 4:02 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I surrender to not fighting against reality.

I don't know what "follow to achieve" means but I currently don't aim to achieve anything.

What I value most is friendship.

So, what I surrender to and value most are two different things and I currently have no ambitions to achieve sooooo MK..... What does this mean?

Whatever is number 1 and all close to it, in what you value/love, and how you go on about living towards it, is your religion.

Even if you hardly value what you value most, what you value most by definition is what you worship. We never value God as he ought to be valued, all we can do is make him number 1 such that everything pales in how much we value it.

Otherwise, we cannot truly value it at the level due to it.

Oh so you completely threw the "follow to achieve" and "surrender to" part of the definition in the garbage already?

* Edwardo Piet waits for the implication to elude you
Find
Reply
Mister Agenda Offline Donators
Donator
*****
Religious Views: Rational skeptic
Posts: 10653
Threads: 15
Joined: September 9, 2011
Reputation: 119
#70
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:18 pm
Losty Wrote:Why do you get to just make that up?

Because it make him feel some kind of way....
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
Find
Reply


Atheist Forums › Community › Religion v
What makes a religion?

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  To all religions/What makes you think...... Brian37 22 3642 February 26, 2019 at 8:46 am
Last Post: no one
  How do you call someone who is religious only because it makes them feel happy? Der/die AtheistIn 38 8770 November 25, 2017 at 12:31 am
Last Post: c172
  What makes your faith true? Fake Messiah 237 39174 November 12, 2017 at 3:27 am
Last Post: Odoital77
  Really makes you think Astonished 7 2252 September 25, 2017 at 12:28 am
Last Post: Astonished
  What makes Christian God so special? causal code 16 5107 August 25, 2017 at 2:35 pm
Last Post: Astonished
  Religion hurts homosexuality but homosexuality kills religion? RozKek 43 12028 March 30, 2016 at 2:46 am
Last Post: robvalue
  Terrorism has no religion but religion brings terrorism. Islam is NOT peaceful. bussta33 13 5477 January 16, 2016 at 8:25 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Religion's affect outside of religion Heat 67 21265 September 28, 2015 at 9:45 pm
Last Post: TheRocketSurgeon
  Religion makes sense Mystic 45 11023 July 2, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus
Video Being "Moderately Religious" Makes no sense Mental Outlaw 10 2585 January 27, 2015 at 10:51 pm
Last Post: Chad32



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)