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What makes a religion?

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What makes a religion?
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#61
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Why do you get to just make that up?
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#62
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm)Losty Wrote: Why do you get to just make that up?

What am I making up?
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#63
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
This is arrogance of the highest level, just informing us all of what is true and what isn't. Of course it just happens to be what he believes is true.

I thought MK was better than this. I was wrong.
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#64
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm
Quote:To me that is the religion. It's submission. It's what we embrace and are at peace with.

If that's what religion is then my religion is my own acknowledgement of the futility of fighting against the reality that no one is free to choose what occurs to them.
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RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:14 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 4:05 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 17, 2016 at 3:59 pm)robvalue Wrote: I don't surrender to anything. Although I'm sure you'll tell me otherwise.

Yes, I will tell you otherwise. I'm sharing my perspective. We always follow something. We always make a choice. What you are embracing to me is a darkness and uncleanness from a magical evil source that afflicts humanity, he and his forces.

It doesn't matter at the end, it's not until when we truthfully embrace God's sword to the extent we let it cut us, and we become it, do we truly submit. Till then there is a lot of deception and trickery going on.

At the end of it, you had Angels with you, and you were connected to the light of Guide of age at all times, and you chose to not embrace that and not to listen to any of it's call. 

To me that is the religion. It's submission. It's what we embrace and are at peace with.

If you are at peace with the false unclean identity and you believe in the falsehood and are at peace with it, that is what you surrender yourself to. You embrace it, you took it as your way, your path, and you followed it.

The light and the true peace and tranquillity, on the other hand, if you hated, you hated.

It's a choice.   We submit either to the truth or to falsehood.

(June 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 17, 2016 at 4:10 pm)Losty Wrote: Why do you get to just make that up?

What am I making up?

That shit up there ^^^

What's your evidence because it sound like you made it up off the top of your head.
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RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:15 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 4:13 pm)robvalue Wrote: This is arrogance of the highest level, just informing us all of what is true and what isn't. Of course it just happens to be what he believes is true.

I thought MK was better than this. I was wrong.

Not just what is true, but what we believe. Dodgy

And he said surrender and submission like....no BDSM is not my religion.
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RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
MysticKnight Wrote:
Losty Wrote:Ok MK define religion.

What you surrender to and follow to achieve what you value most.

Congratulations on making religion as insignificant as following a sports team. We've been trying to do that for years.
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RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm (This post was last modified: June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm by IATIA.)
(June 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Whatever is number 1 and all close to it, in what you value/love, and how you go on about living towards it, is your religion.

Even if you hardly value what you value most, what you value most by definition is what you worship. We never value God as he ought to be valued, all we can do is make him number 1 such that everything pales in how much we value it.

Otherwise, we cannot truly value it at the level due to it.

Here is what I read;

(paraphrase MK)
Everybody worships something. If that something is not the one true god, then one is worshiping a false god.

Commandment #1 - - Thou shalt not have strange gods before thee.

Which means that no matter how good I am, I must go to hell.
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#69
RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:16 pm
(June 17, 2016 at 4:09 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
(June 17, 2016 at 4:02 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I surrender to not fighting against reality.

I don't know what "follow to achieve" means but I currently don't aim to achieve anything.

What I value most is friendship.

So, what I surrender to and value most are two different things and I currently have no ambitions to achieve sooooo MK..... What does this mean?

Whatever is number 1 and all close to it, in what you value/love, and how you go on about living towards it, is your religion.

Even if you hardly value what you value most, what you value most by definition is what you worship. We never value God as he ought to be valued, all we can do is make him number 1 such that everything pales in how much we value it.

Otherwise, we cannot truly value it at the level due to it.

Oh so you completely threw the "follow to achieve" and "surrender to" part of the definition in the garbage already?

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RE: What makes a religion?
June 17, 2016 at 4:18 pm
Losty Wrote:Why do you get to just make that up?

Because it make him feel some kind of way....
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