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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 12:20 pm
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(June 27, 2016 at 9:19 am)Drich Wrote: just pulling the curtain back and allowing the great atheist liberal mindset the opportunity to receive the credit it is due.
Except I'm not a liberal, you cunt. I'm a libertarian, more or less.
How can you breathe with your head so firmly wedged up your ass?
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 12:43 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 10:12 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote: (June 27, 2016 at 10:10 am)Drich Wrote: Currently there are three excepted ways a Devout sunni mulsim is allowed to full fill their version of the great commission (the reason they are here/serve their god)
1) sit down with a non believer and reason with him and convert him to islam.
2) move into an area and out populate the indigenous people.
3) Jihad. Kill all infidels in a region and take it in the name of Alah.
Sounds a lot like what Christians have been doing for centuries.
Moron, is the history Christianity going to shoot up another night club? or murder a magazine staff for drawing pictures of Jesus, or how about fly planes into buildings or machine gun a cafe' full of people?
Who is responsible for these things present day? Who is going to be responsible for the next 'religious' inspired attack?
Christians who have been dead for 1000 years or live Muslims?
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 12:52 pm
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You act as if christian terrorism ever went away, and for you...the king of "those guys do it too!", this is an almost inexplicable gaff.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 12:54 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 10:29 am)Rhythm Wrote: (June 27, 2016 at 10:10 am)Drich Wrote: Lukewarm Muslims/Muslims who have compromised their beliefs away, meaning they don't take the koran literally. we don't have to worry about, only those who truly believe in their religion. They truly do not have any choices before them.
The danger of fundamentalist religious belief is not limited to any particular belief set within that larger group. Fundy muslims blow up nightclubs, fundy christians blow up abortion clinics. Fundy muslims babble about allahs laws, fundy christians cast yahwehs vote. They aren't dangerous, in either case, because they are christian or muslim, but because they're fundy nutjobs.
That's why I don't worry about you, point of fact. Your not a literalist who truly believes. The worst I expect of you is to say silly shit, and by and large, that's the worst I expect of any particular muslim.
That's the thing sport, It does not take a radicalized fundamentalist to do those things, or read death into this religion. It's on the surface, for any and all who are more devout than the luke warm... You seemed confused as you are arguing christian fundamentals as if they were how Muslims also worked. (either because you don't know any better or because you are afraid to argue facts) But Islam is not splintered like Christianity is. There is only one interpretation under the sunni sect. And again 90% are sunni. Sunni have a funny way of killing those who do not strictly follow their teachings, which is why so many are sunni.
So Under sunni rule, there is only lukewarm and devout. The devout all have the potential of turning on those who are not devout sunni. Which is why people like the Imam of central Fl will never openly identify the shooter as evil and what he does as evil.
So again, it doesn't take a nut job... Just a Muslim serious about his faith.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 12:55 pm
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Islam isn't splintered, lol...open a fucking newspaper for a change. As far as people who are serious about their faiths..were you under the impression that I was talking about someone else when referring to fundy nutjobs?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 12:57 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 12:20 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (June 27, 2016 at 9:19 am)Drich Wrote: just pulling the curtain back and allowing the great atheist liberal mindset the opportunity to receive the credit it is due.
Except I'm not a liberal, you cunt. I'm a libertarian, more or less.
How can you breathe with your head so firmly wedged up your ass?
are you not an atheist? or do you not know liberal principles are the foundations in which atheism derives it's "morality" used to judge God?
Despite what box you claim to check, you are still indeed a liberal douche at heart.
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 1:07 pm
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In all the time you've been here you've learned absolutely nothing about atheism, and yet you feel qualified to opine upon what lies in the atheist heart - whatever the fuck that is.
You -must- realize that there are many of us who don't get invited to liberal swoirees, and repeatedly find ourselves being told to fuck off by the same? That's just in our cloistered little US Universe, plenty of atheists can;t help but giggle at the idea of being liberals...because that word just doesn't mean what it means to you, where they are from, and so is reduced to a joke.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 1:18 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 12:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Islam isn't splintered, lol...open a fucking newspaper for a change. As far as people who are serious about their faiths..were you under the impression that I was talking about someone else when referring to nutjobs?
AS CHRISTIANITY IS SPLINTERED!!! finish the thought! You strawman creating a-hole!
Is Islam splintered into 30K different factions or sects, as christianity is? No?!?!? As the power of Christ (and truth) compells you!
Then if the above is true then what I said was an accurate and factual statement! Islam is not splintered as Christianity is!!!
So what does that mean?
Islam has 1 Primary group. there are over 1.62 BILLION muslims in the world 90% or Sunni!!! That means 90% of all muslims BELIEVE THE EXACT SAME THING! They all yield their beliefs to the same religious teachings and leadership
So Who or what faction makes up ISIS... Hmm is it Shia muslims??? Noo... ISIS is targeting shia muslims.. could it be Sunni, YES! It is the sunni who make up Not only the islamic state fighters but also the Taliban and just about every other terrorist group.
Now the question is, what group do the muslims that live abroad/In the west worship under, surely they are not the same branch as the ISIS fighters...
But they are. So then how can the isis fighters and the peace loving naturalized citizens belong to the same doctrinal religion? are the ISIS fighters 'radicalized?" and the peaceful guys here not?
The ISIS fighters and the lone wolves are no more radicalized than the peaceful Muslims are mainstream.
Again I point back to my original statement. The Sunni believe there are the ways to full fill alah's great commission (take over the world) Breeding out an indigenous people, converting them/evangelism or jihad.
Jihad, is just as valid a way if not more 'respected' that the breeding or evangelism route. It all comes down to calling.. Some are supposedly called to jihad while other start families. Those who can't start a family are 'called' to jihad.
Say like a guy struggling with his sexuality and is looking for a way to redeem himself before his god...
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 1:19 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 12:57 pm)Drich Wrote: (June 27, 2016 at 12:20 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Except I'm not a liberal, you cunt. I'm a libertarian, more or less.
How can you breathe with your head so firmly wedged up your ass?
are you not an atheist? or do you not know liberal principles are the foundations in which atheism derives it's "morality" used to judge God?
Despite what box you claim to check, you are still indeed a liberal douche at heart.
Why do you think atheists are liberals?
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
June 27, 2016 at 1:26 pm
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(June 27, 2016 at 1:18 pm)Drich Wrote: AS CHRISTIANITY IS SPLINTERED!!! finish the thought! You strawman creating a-hole!
Is Islam splintered into 30K different factions or sects, as christianity is? No?!?!? As the power of Christ (and truth) compells you! Are you interested in a detailed factual appraisal, or self aggrandizing simplicity...and I recall you arguing against the splintered nature of christianity, repeatedly. Change of heart?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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