Again, 'smart, open minded people' of Atheist forums... I am not addressing what is being believed or dismissed.. (I am not speaking to the validity of content) I am speaking to the closed minded what you approach a subject matter. No one of offered any proof that the girls condition was limited by the diagnosed cause.. None of you sought out what it was the 'devil' was saying..

What if the 9 year old could recite what the devil said in Latin in real time? What if she through Satan accurately predict the next 6 terror attacks???

The point is not the validity of this particular situation but the way you all approach a story like this with a "the world is flat and man will never fly attitude."

All I am suggesting is you do a little digging before you dismiss anything out right.

I know that there are 1000 crap stories likes this, but out of that 1000 there maybe one legit occourance.. The point being the devil can often be found in the details.. If one were to simply look.

Drich...if this was your daughter, and she'd told you in confidence she's hearing voices telling her to commit suicide, and she was terrified because of it, what would you do?

(July 18, 2016 at 9:01 am)Drich Wrote: Again, 'smart, open minded people' of Atheist forums... I am not addressing what is being believed or dismissed.. (I am not speaking to the validity of content) I am speaking to the closed minded what you approach a subject matter. No one of offered any proof that the girls condition was limited by the diagnosed cause.. None of you sought out what it was the 'devil' was saying..

What if the 9 year old could recite what the devil said in Latin in real time? What if she through Satan accurately predict the next 6 terror attacks???

The point is not the validity of this particular situation but the way you all approach a story like this with a "the world is flat and man will never fly attitude."

All I am suggesting is you do a little digging before you dismiss anything out right.

I know that there are 1000 crap stories likes this, but out of that 1000 there maybe one legit occourance.. The point being the devil can often be found in the details.. If one were to simply look.

But those situations aren't logically plausible. So hypothesis of such situations is rather obtuse. But I can see where you're coming from a little more now.

How exactly would we know Satan was doing any of that? We'd have no possible way of determining where the information was coming from. She could claim any source whatsoever, that doesn't make it true.

Even if we did... Throw fucking holy water at her? Chant mantras?

If God is already letting Satan do stuff, we're kind of on our own. Will he only stop him when begged to?

(July 18, 2016 at 9:01 am)Drich Wrote: Again, 'smart, open minded people' of Atheist forums... I am not addressing what is being believed or dismissed.. (I am not speaking to the validity of content) I am speaking to the closed minded what you approach a subject matter. No one of offered any proof that the girls condition was limited by the diagnosed cause.. None of you sought out what it was the 'devil' was saying..

I showed up late; hi everyone.  Bold mine... 

Of course no one offered any proof regarding the girl's condition; we're not psychologists and that fact was pointed out several pages ago (not to mention none of us know her personally.)  The point of this was to get the girl help from someone who could perform a professional evaluation of her condition and provide treatment if necessary before something bad happened.

Drich, go fall in a lake.

The time to start asking for the opinions of random people about conspiracy theories backed by no evidence is when every qualified person in the world comes up empty. Especially when someone is actually in danger.

(July 18, 2016 at 10:21 am)robvalue Wrote: How exactly would we know Satan was doing any of that? We'd have no possible way of determining where the information was coming from. She could claim any source whatsoever, that doesn't make it true.

I was so closed minded, I already asked him that. Either he missed it or chose to ignore it so it wouldn't spoil his special little buzz down there. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, but y'know; Drich...

(July 18, 2016 at 9:01 am)Drich Wrote: Again, 'smart, open minded people' of Atheist forums... I am not addressing what is being believed or dismissed.. (I am not speaking to the validity of content) I am speaking to the closed minded what you approach a subject matter. No one of offered any proof that the girls condition was limited by the diagnosed cause.. None of you sought out what it was the 'devil' was saying..

What if the 9 year old could recite what the devil said in Latin in real time? What if she through Satan accurately predict the next 6 terror attacks???

The point is not the validity of this particular situation but the way you all approach a story like this with a "the world is flat and man will never fly attitude."

All I am suggesting is you do a little digging before you dismiss anything out right.

I know that there are 1000 crap stories likes this, but out of that 1000 there maybe one legit occourance.. The point being the devil can often be found in the details.. If one were to simply look.

It is not closed-minded to refuse to entertain the unevidenced, superstitious notion that an invisible, demonic entity has somehow magically implanted itself into this little girl's brain and is giving her commands. That's just common sense.

I suppose if I started hearing voices in my head and claimed that a million malicious nanobots from outer-space were rewiring my neurons, you'd stop and think "Wait, I've got to be open-minded about this!"

Because honestly, your assertion is as absurd as the one I listed, and therefore, there is no reason to be open-minded about it. Remember, if you're too open-minded, your brain will fall out.

(July 18, 2016 at 9:25 am)Iroscato Wrote: Drich...if this was your daughter, and she'd told you in confidence she's hearing voices telling her to commit suicide, and she was terrified because of it, what would you do?

Full examine the situation. examine what was said and when, see if their were any events that triggered this change of behavior, investigate not only what she would have to say but also look into her friends and social media accounts. And again make an assessment if she needed medical treatment or if we can 'silence her demons' together.

(July 18, 2016 at 9:01 am)Drich Wrote: Again, 'smart, open minded people' of Atheist forums... I am not addressing what is being believed or dismissed.. (I am not speaking to the validity of content) I am speaking to the closed minded what you approach a subject matter. No one of offered any proof that the girls condition was limited by the diagnosed cause.. None of you sought out what it was the 'devil' was saying..

What if the 9 year old could recite what the devil said in Latin in real time? What if she through Satan accurately predict the next 6 terror attacks???

The point is not the validity of this particular situation but the way you all approach a story like this with a "the world is flat and man will never fly attitude."

All I am suggesting is you do a little digging before you dismiss anything out right.

I know that there are 1000 crap stories likes this, but out of that 1000 there maybe one legit occourance.. The point being the devil can often be found in the details.. If one were to simply look.

(emphasis mine)

No, the devil is not 'often found' in the details. That's the point, we've looked and found no devil. What we have 'often found' is that symptoms like this are treatable with medication and therapy. When there is a danger, you go with the most probable solution. This child isn't some religious experiment.

Again, what would you do? If your child said she could stop cars with the power of her mind, would you let her play in the street to see if it's true?