White privilege is prevalent that's why it's called white privilege. It's not very specific circumstances that are required: I am very privileged to have been born white in the UK and that goes for most first world countries.
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Is white privilege real? To what extent?
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(July 19, 2016 at 12:59 pm)Losty Wrote:(July 19, 2016 at 12:51 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Jokes are a good filler between the fallacious arguments, assumptions, insults and pleas to emotion. You lost all credibility by going on a rant I'm afraid, whether it is justified or not. If Paul doesn't want to conform to YOUR or anybody else's standards, then that is his right and he has every damn right to express his opinion instead of being shouted down. I mean, what the hell, you want to debate yet you become like Ken Ham and all the others who will not listen to other peoples arguments. RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 1:43 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2016 at 1:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It is clear, however, that you're keenly sensitive to being perceived -as- a racist, and that it forms a significant portion of your objection to the existence of white privilege. Hence the knee jerk "stop blaming whites, the idea of white privilege is racist" refrain.
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RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 1:47 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2016 at 1:47 pm by RobertE.)
Take a look at the caste system in India and then we can start talking about "brown privilege."
(July 19, 2016 at 1:29 pm)Losty Wrote:(July 19, 2016 at 1:12 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Am I typing through a filter where what I say gets reversed at the other end? I decided to stop reading upon the part where you said , the whole point of the thread is to cry about..... I'm deciding to stop reading fallacious insulting sarcastic posts at the instant they turn that way because there's no need for it. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. (July 19, 2016 at 1:43 pm)RobertE Wrote:(July 19, 2016 at 12:59 pm)Losty Wrote: Are you serious. This thread has gone on for a million pages. You've said nothing but "wah wah white privilege is real but I don't like it because of dictionaries and plus I don't wanna talk about it." And "All privileges matter" and other such bullshit. Also, it's at least the 3rd or 4th thread of this shit. We get it, you don't like talking about white privilege because not every single white person in the world is overly privileged, and also because Asian people have some privilege. Wanka wanka stop blaming white people for racism. What is there left to do but make jokes? What rant? And when did I say he couldn't express his opinion? I have had conversation in this thread. I don't have anything against Paul and I don't hate him for disagreeing with me. If he's going to whine about me making a joke, I'm going to point out that the conversation has reached full circle more than once already so there's no reason why I can't make a joke. I have read the arguments. I find them to be lacking...mostly in having any point at all. I'm inclined to say I don't care if you give me any credibility I don't even know who you are? RE: Is white privilege real? To what extent?
July 19, 2016 at 1:58 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2016 at 1:58 pm by Losty.)
(July 19, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Losty Wrote:(July 19, 2016 at 1:43 pm)RobertE Wrote: You lost all credibility by going on a rant I'm afraid, whether it is justified or not. If Paul doesn't want to conform to YOUR or anybody else's standards, then that is his right and he has every damn right to express his opinion instead of being shouted down. I mean, what the hell, you want to debate yet you become like Ken Ham and all the others who will not listen to other peoples arguments. What you mean is that if I complain about you making sarcastic pointless comments you're going to excuse yourself by claiming it was a joke all along. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. (July 19, 2016 at 1:58 pm)paulpablo Wrote:(July 19, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Losty Wrote: What rant? And when did I say he couldn't express his opinion? That's not even close to what I said. The conversation going full circle means you have points, other people gave points, an agreement was not made so you gave the same points, the same rebuttals were made...still no agreement. Rinse wash repeat. We don't agree on the matter (though I think your views and mine are very very close on this subject) no amount of repeating the same arguments back and forth at each other over and over will change that. Stalemate. And so begins jokes because I got tired of watching the paint on my argument dry after I made it for the 3rd time. (July 19, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Losty Wrote:(July 19, 2016 at 1:43 pm)RobertE Wrote: You lost all credibility by going on a rant I'm afraid, whether it is justified or not. If Paul doesn't want to conform to YOUR or anybody else's standards, then that is his right and he has every damn right to express his opinion instead of being shouted down. I mean, what the hell, you want to debate yet you become like Ken Ham and all the others who will not listen to other peoples arguments. "Are you serious. This thread has gone on for a million pages. You've said nothing but "wah wah white privilege is real but I don't like it because of dictionaries and plus I don't wanna talk about it." And "All privileges matter" and other such bullshit. Also, it's at least the 3rd or 4th thread of this shit. We get it, you don't like talking about white privilege because not every single white person in the world is overly privileged, and also because Asian people have some privilege. Wanka wanka stop blaming white people for racism. What is there left to do but make jokes?" For me, the above would be considered a rant and nothing else, just like my reply to you earlier. In essence, the message that Paul was trying to get over was that privilege is not just "white", but all skin colours. There are Afro-Caribeans who hate Africans full-stop and Africans think that the Afro-Caribeans are "privileged." All I saw Paul doing was trying to be objective whatever his personal opinions were whereas you were being subjective and thus blinded by your own attitude and own personal feelings in that "white people are privileged, full stop!!!" If you cannot argue from an objective point of view, then it is nigh on impossible to have a debate with you because you will always have some sort of bias, thus anyone who questions yourr opinion will no doubtedly be wrong simply because your own personal opinions goes into the mix. Try and be a little more open-minded....and smile like me... |
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