(July 28, 2016 at 10:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(July 28, 2016 at 10:18 pm)Losty Wrote: How the hell is that what I was saying!? You quoted my post but did not read it...

I read what you wrote.

I took what you said about the scriptures being written after the fact (by which you can only be referring to the new testament) to mean the Jesus's story was written to conform to old testament prophecy, my point was that there are too many outlying factors for that to be possible, unless your attributing those factors to coincidence, which would be absurd.

As far as I know, the entire bible was written after the fact. Perhaps I am wrong about that. I've never seen any compelling evidence that the Jesus Christ of the bible existed.

I notice how you choose to ignore the part about how God would obviously not be bound by any scriptures and would be perfectly capable of forgiving any debt sans payment should he so choose.

(July 28, 2016 at 10:13 pm)Huggy7 Wrote: I just showed where Mary actually did give consent.

Ahh! So nice of you to explain that a rape victim gave consent. I am sure she appreciates your support. Have you ever thought of becoming a paid witness in a court?

(July 28, 2016 at 10:32 pm)Losty Wrote:

(July 28, 2016 at 10:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I read what you wrote.

I took what you said about the scriptures being written after the fact (by which you can only be referring to the new testament) to mean the Jesus's story was written to conform to old testament prophecy, my point was that there are too many outlying factors for that to be possible, unless your attributing those factors to coincidence, which would be absurd.

As far as I know, the entire bible was written after the fact. Perhaps I am wrong about that. I've never seen any compelling evidence that the Jesus Christ of the bible existed.

I notice how you choose to ignore the part about how God would obviously not be bound by any scriptures and would be perfectly capable of forgiving any debt sans payment should he so choose.

God is obligated to his word, and he will never break his word hence "God is not a man the he should lie".

If his word states that "the wages of sin is death" then only death can atone for sin (hence why the Hebrews sacrificed animals as an atonement), for God to make some other way would break his word.

(July 28, 2016 at 10:48 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(July 28, 2016 at 10:32 pm)Losty Wrote: As far as I know, the entire bible was written after the fact. Perhaps I am wrong about that. I've never seen any compelling evidence that the Jesus Christ of the bible existed.

I notice how you choose to ignore the part about how God would obviously not be bound by any scriptures and would be perfectly capable of forgiving any debt sans payment should he so choose.

God is obligated to his word, and he will never break his word hence "God is not a man the he should lie".

If his word states that "the wages of sin is death" then only death can atone for sin, for God to make some other way would break his word.

who are you to obligate God to his word?

(July 28, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Losty Wrote:

(July 28, 2016 at 10:48 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: God is obligated to his word, and he will never break his word hence "God is not a man the he should lie".

If his word states that "the wages of sin is death" then only death can atone for sin, for God to make some other way would break his word.

who are you to obligate God to his word?

I don't, he obligates himself to his word.

(July 28, 2016 at 11:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(July 28, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Losty Wrote: who are you to obligate God to his word?

I don't, he obligates himself to his word.

How do you know? Also, is he incapable of changing his mind?

(July 28, 2016 at 11:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(July 28, 2016 at 10:57 pm)Losty Wrote: who are you to obligate God to his word?

I don't, he obligates himself to his word.

Hubris!

(July 28, 2016 at 11:03 pm)Losty Wrote:

(July 28, 2016 at 11:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I don't, he obligates himself to his word.

How do you know? Also, is he incapable of changing his mind?

I only know what's written in the Bible, it's not like i'm making it up as I go along.


Does God change his mind? the short answer is no.

For God to change his mind would imply that he found a better way of doing something, which is absurd for a being that is all knowing. God doesn't change, man does. This is why Jesus stated that divorce was never God's intention from the beginning, but he allowed it because of the hardness of their hearts.

It was never Gods intention for Israel to be a monarchy, God himself ruled the people through a prophet, but because of the hardness of the peoples hearts God allowed them to choose a King.

So God doesn't change his mind, he permits things to happen outside of his will.

(July 28, 2016 at 11:20 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Does God change his mind? the short answer is no.

....how do you know?

(July 28, 2016 at 9:52 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(July 28, 2016 at 9:51 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Oh, yeah, like anyone would turn down an all powerful eternal and infinite being.

*edit mine*
You seem to have done exactly that...

No one here has "turned gawd down," Huggies. We'd have to believe it exists first.