We often attack the ideas, and even the religions in general.  But I'd like to acknowledge a few particular Muslims who I respect or who have contributed a lot to society.

Here's a recent one that we probably all know about now. The first one is one of the best speeches I've ever seen:

Notice that the wife didn't say anything.

'Nuff said

(August 1, 2016 at 8:46 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Notice that the wife didn't say anything.

'Nuff said

I thought I asked you to stop trolling? Now I'm telling you.

(August 1, 2016 at 8:47 am)Tiberius Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 8:46 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Notice that the wife didn't say anything.

'Nuff said

I thought I asked you to stop trolling?

I'm not trolling here.

Right, you're just taking the exact same view that Trump did.

(August 1, 2016 at 8:49 am)Tiberius Wrote: Right, you're just taking the exact same view that Trump did.

*sigh*

Yes, and if that's a bannable offense now, then go right ahead.

To be fair, Tibs, maybe she just didn't watch the second video, 'cause I thought the same thing before I watched it and I didn't even know what Trump said.

But I don't know, I'm not trying to get involved or anything.

(August 1, 2016 at 8:53 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 8:49 am)Tiberius Wrote: Right, you're just taking the exact same view that Trump did.

*sigh*

Yes, and if that's a bannable offence now, then go right ahead.

The only real problem I have with making rules against trolling is that it's hard to tell if and when one is displaying a controversial view one doesn't really hold simply to mock, deride and annoy people or to generate discussion, the second of which happens all the time - people do it and don't even know it. Like I've stopped myself a lot of times in the middle of a debate, realizing I didn't really hold some view I was defending, but that I was probably only pretending to in order to have a discussion about it to better understand the issue myself.

Sorry for the off-topic, I don't know what came over me.

On-topic, I liked both videos. This seems like a reasonable human being indeed, and I appreciate his words and am sorry for his loss.

Maybe the wife is just a mother and a wife, and doesn't want to stand in front of like 20,000 people and talk about her dead son.

Anyway, how many times did Hillary stand behind Bill when he was giving a speech? Did anybody ask why Hillary didn't jump up and grab the mic? Why? Why should she?

If sharing Trump's views should become a bannable offense, I'll set my avatar on fire in protest. That being said, all Trump supporters should get run over by a tricycle.