(August 6, 2016 at 6:29 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

hahaha you are dating yourself with this one.  That brings back memories-- me and my buddies doing the Camel Clutch on each other, with some pretty painful results and much hilarity.

My own favourite Muslim is Hazma Meer. Runs a coffee and cake shop in Whangarei. Probably the most cheerful, upbeat human I've ever met. Always has a smile that looks as if he's about to laugh at some private joke, unfailing happy when he greets people, and makes a kanefah so good it would make a priest leave off buggering boys.

Boru

This one is just TOO easy:

(August 1, 2016 at 8:46 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Notice that the wife didn't say anything.

'Nuff said

That doesn't mean anything. Maybe she didn't speak because she would become to emotional, who knows? As an example when my father passed  away my older brother did his memorial reading at church as there was no way I could.

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(August 1, 2016 at 8:59 am)Irrational Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 8:46 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Notice that the wife didn't say anything.

'Nuff said

Maybe she didn't want to say anything, but just stand next to her husband as he made his speech. Does everyone on camera have to say something?

The speech was touching. The only thing that bugged me in the video was the USA chant from the audience.

Why shouldn't the audience chant USA though? It tells the fuck wits from the GOP this is our country too.

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(August 1, 2016 at 9:02 am)Bella Morte Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 8:57 am)Tiberius Wrote: Trolling is a bannable offense. You literally admitted to it in another thread, revealing that your support of trump was a lie. Now I find you in another thread, quite literally repeating Trump talking points (and thoroughly debunked ones at that).

If you aren't trolling, perhaps try to add a bit more substance to your posts.

Yes, the Vote Trump posts were indeed a joke but that doesn't mean I can't agree with the occasional thing he says. But hey, go into your moderation subforum and discuss the case if need be.

Name one thing the tosser has ever said that was worth shit?

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(August 1, 2016 at 10:16 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 9:02 am)Alex K Wrote: Aiye, I tried to read the Satanic Verses, and after a few pages I began suspecting that the Fatwah was for the impenetrable style. Maybe I should give it another shot some time

Definitely not the best of his books - although I haven't read many. The symbolism seems somewhat heavy-handed and while the concept is interesting - the titular "Satanic Verses" being a few lines of Quran, that seem to endorse polytheism and pay tribute to some pagan goddess, which apparently has been bothering muslim scholars for ages - the story kind of... peters out, in my opinion. Still - wort a read, just to be able to say that you did...

My favorite would be Midnight's Children, which deals with events in India, during the transition from British colonialism to independence.  A copy of "The Ground Beneath Her Feet" has been in my possession for some 10 years, one of very few old-fashioned books I own, but I can't make myself read it, for some reason. I might get an audio version to listen to at work, I suppose.

The Looming Tower is a book you should read.

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(August 1, 2016 at 10:16 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 9:02 am)Alex K Wrote: Aiye, I tried to read the Satanic Verses, and after a few pages I began suspecting that the Fatwah was for the impenetrable style. Maybe I should give it another shot some time

Definitely not the best of his books - although I haven't read many. The symbolism seems somewhat heavy-handed and while the concept is interesting - the titular "Satanic Verses" being a few lines of Quran, that seem to endorse polytheism and pay tribute to some pagan goddess, which apparently has been bothering muslim scholars for ages - the story kind of... peters out, in my opinion. Still - wort a read, just to be able to say that you did...

My favorite would be Midnight's Children, which deals with events in India, during the transition from British colonialism to independence.  A copy of "The Ground Beneath Her Feet" has been in my possession for some 10 years, one of very few old-fashioned books I own, but I can't make myself read it, for some reason. I might get an audio version to listen to at work, I suppose.

The Looming Tower is a book you should read.

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(August 6, 2016 at 5:41 pm)RobertE Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 8:42 am)bennyboy Wrote: We often attack the ideas, and even the religions in general.  But I'd like to acknowledge a few particular Muslims who I respect or who have contributed a lot to society.

Here's a recent one that we probably all know about now.  The first one is one of the best speeches I've ever seen:

Loved the part about with working hard, the goodness of the United States and the contribution the immigrants have made, it is incredible that for those who have only been there for a couple of generations have done really well. Perhaps those who live by the guns, the drugs and whatever else should take a good damn look at themselves in the mirror and feel shame. It is not what your country can do for you, it is what you can do for your country is correct. America doesn't owe a damn thing to those who don't help themselves.

And of those that can't help themselves?

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(August 6, 2016 at 6:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: My own favourite Muslim is Hazma Meer.  Runs a coffee and cake shop in Whangarei.  Probably the most cheerful, upbeat human I've ever met.  Always has a smile that looks as if he's about to laugh at some private joke, unfailing happy when he greets people, and makes a kanefah so good it would make a priest leave off buggering boys.

Boru

A fine joke, as long as you don't believe it of all Priests.

(August 7, 2016 at 3:06 am)KJV-reader Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 8:59 am)Irrational Wrote: Maybe she didn't want to say anything, but just stand next to her husband as he made his speech. Does everyone on camera have to say something?

The speech was touching. The only thing that bugged me in the video was the USA chant from the audience.

Why shouldn't the audience chant USA though? It tells the fuck wits from the GOP this is our country too.

It's annoying, irrelevant, and sounds overly zealous.

So what about these guys?

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/thefeed/artic...y-gay-imam

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016...o-massacre

Or this one?

http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/06/...al-parade/

Quote:Ludovic-Mohamed Zahed, the French gay imam who opened a gay-friendly mosque in Paris will board the World Religion Boat in August for the Amsterdam Euro Pride Canal Parade, as announced by World Religion Boat.

He already did, by the way.

(August 7, 2016 at 3:06 am)KJV-reader Wrote:

(August 1, 2016 at 8:46 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Notice that the wife didn't say anything.

'Nuff said

That doesn't mean anything. Maybe she didn't speak because she would become to emotional, who knows? As an example when my father passed  away my older brother did his memorial reading at church as there was no way I could.

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(August 1, 2016 at 8:59 am)Irrational Wrote: Maybe she didn't want to say anything, but just stand next to her husband as he made his speech. Does everyone on camera have to say something?

The speech was touching. The only thing that bugged me in the video was the USA chant from the audience.

Why shouldn't the audience chant USA though? It tells the fuck wits from the GOP this is our country too.

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(August 1, 2016 at 9:02 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Yes, the Vote Trump posts were indeed a joke but that doesn't mean I can't agree with the occasional thing he says. But hey, go into your moderation subforum and discuss the case if need be.

Name one thing the tosser has ever said that was worth shit?

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(August 1, 2016 at 10:16 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Definitely not the best of his books - although I haven't read many. The symbolism seems somewhat heavy-handed and while the concept is interesting - the titular "Satanic Verses" being a few lines of Quran, that seem to endorse polytheism and pay tribute to some pagan goddess, which apparently has been bothering muslim scholars for ages - the story kind of... peters out, in my opinion. Still - wort a read, just to be able to say that you did...

My favorite would be Midnight's Children, which deals with events in India, during the transition from British colonialism to independence.  A copy of "The Ground Beneath Her Feet" has been in my possession for some 10 years, one of very few old-fashioned books I own, but I can't make myself read it, for some reason. I might get an audio version to listen to at work, I suppose.

The Looming Tower is a book you should read.

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(August 1, 2016 at 10:16 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Definitely not the best of his books - although I haven't read many. The symbolism seems somewhat heavy-handed and while the concept is interesting - the titular "Satanic Verses" being a few lines of Quran, that seem to endorse polytheism and pay tribute to some pagan goddess, which apparently has been bothering muslim scholars for ages - the story kind of... peters out, in my opinion. Still - wort a read, just to be able to say that you did...

My favorite would be Midnight's Children, which deals with events in India, during the transition from British colonialism to independence.  A copy of "The Ground Beneath Her Feet" has been in my possession for some 10 years, one of very few old-fashioned books I own, but I can't make myself read it, for some reason. I might get an audio version to listen to at work, I suppose.

The Looming Tower is a book you should read.

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(August 6, 2016 at 5:41 pm)RobertE Wrote: Loved the part about with working hard, the goodness of the United States and the contribution the immigrants have made, it is incredible that for those who have only been there for a couple of generations have done really well. Perhaps those who live by the guns, the drugs and whatever else should take a good damn look at themselves in the mirror and feel shame. It is not what your country can do for you, it is what you can do for your country is correct. America doesn't owe a damn thing to those who don't help themselves.

And of those that can't help themselves?

I should have re-phrased that, sorry. It should read "America doesn't owe a damn thing to those who don't want to help themselves, yet complain at the slightest thing. The Indians from the sub-continent, the Africans, the Koreans, the Chinese, the Japanese and all other races have gone to America with nothing in their pockets yet, all the Indians, Koreans, Chinese, Japanese all decided to take their chances and live the American dream by offering something of their own cultures to the American people. 

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(August 6, 2016 at 6:59 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: My own favourite Muslim is Hazma Meer.  Runs a coffee and cake shop in Whangarei.  Probably the most cheerful, upbeat human I've ever met.  Always has a smile that looks as if he's about to laugh at some private joke, unfailing happy when he greets people, and makes a kanefah so good it would make a priest leave off buggering boys.

Boru

A fine joke, as long as you don't believe it of all Priests.