(August 8, 2016 at 11:52 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 8, 2016 at 11:36 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Boeing seems to be doing well, Hamburg, Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki notwithstanding.

Yeah?   we won.

And here we have it; You can commit atrocities all you want, just as long as you're on the winning team.

(August 8, 2016 at 12:33 pm)Jello Wrote:

(August 8, 2016 at 11:52 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Yeah?   we won.

And here we have it; You can commit atrocities all you want, just as long as you're on the winning team.

It's an absolutely disgusting attitude to have. Shame on you, Anomalocaris.

My question is: Is he serious?

(August 8, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: My question is: Is he serious?

I guess we'll just have to wait till he answers that for himself.

Yep.

(August 8, 2016 at 11:52 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 8, 2016 at 11:36 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Boeing seems to be doing well, Hamburg, Dresden, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki notwithstanding.

Yeah?   we won.

Are you incapable of acknowledging a point someone else makes? Just curious.

(August 8, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: My question is: Is he serious?

I suspect he's being deliberately obtuse.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/8...ted-States

Quote:General Barry McCaffrey: Trump Is Unqualified To Be The President Of The United States

Quote:Retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey writes in the Seattle Times about the awful candidate that is Donald Trump and he doesn’t mince his words:

Quote:Trump sounds like a 12-year-old — a willful and abusive braggart. He is remarkably ignorant and uneducated about the world that we face and the means we may use to defend ourselves.

I served in the Armed Forces for 32 years. At retirement, I was a four-star joint-theater commander. In my considered judgment, Trump is unqualified to be the president of the United States and fulfill the role of commander in chief of the 2.2 million men and women of the Armed Forces.

I imagine a nasty tweet is coming as soon as tiny hands can manage it!

(August 8, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(August 8, 2016 at 11:52 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Yeah?   we won.

Are you incapable of acknowledging a point someone else makes? Just curious.

(August 8, 2016 at 12:36 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: My question is: Is he serious?

I suspect he's being deliberately obtuse.

The point seems to be that one could always unsubtlely obfuscate any issue by pretending there is no difference between dramatically different shades of gray.

On the one hand, there is Boeing which engaged in, albeit with perhaps greater than average effectiveness, what is commonly accepted as normal war industrial effort in a war. On the other hand, there is I.G.farben, which had unusually close association with refining the mechanics and logistics of extermination in the concentration camps.

So who is obtuse, deliberate or natural?

(August 8, 2016 at 4:49 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(August 8, 2016 at 1:55 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Are you incapable of acknowledging a point someone else makes? Just curious.


I suspect he's being deliberately obtuse.

The point seems to be that one could always unsubtlely obfuscate any issue by pretending there is no difference between dramatically different shades of gray.

On the one hand, there is Boeing which engaged in, albeit with perhaps greater than average effectiveness, what is commonly accepted as normal war industrial effort in a war.    On the other hand, there is I.G.farben, which had unusually close association with refining the mechanics and logistics of extermination in the concentration camps.

So who is obtuse, deliberate or natural?

Considering that boeing made the B-29s used to nuke japan (Hence the B in the name...), he has a fair point you're overlooking.

(August 8, 2016 at 5:31 pm)Jello Wrote:

(August 8, 2016 at 4:49 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: The point seems to be that one could always unsubtlely obfuscate any issue by pretending there is no difference between dramatically different shades of gray.

On the one hand, there is Boeing which engaged in, albeit with perhaps greater than average effectiveness, what is commonly accepted as normal war industrial effort in a war.    On the other hand, there is I.G.farben, which had unusually close association with refining the mechanics and logistics of extermination in the concentration camps.

So who is obtuse, deliberate or natural?

Considering that boeing made the B-29s used to nuke japan (Hence the B in the name...), he has a fair point you're overlooking.

Yes, how about the companies that made the cranes which loaded the nuke onto the B-29?