(August 11, 2016 at 11:19 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(August 11, 2016 at 11:02 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote: The DNC never denied they rigged the primary. And now there are people alleging murdered DNC Staffer Seth Rich was the person who gave Wiki Leaks the information. Seems it's not only Donald who wants political foes murdered.

So we jump from "there are people alleging" to it "seems" Clinton/DNC, as implied, wanted a staffer murdered? Christ, you sound like Trump.

No, I simply sound like a very cynical person. I wouldn't put it past the establishment to murder people just to save their own careers. The killer isn't known yet, but just look at how Chelsea Manning is being treated in jail. And her crimes (simply whistle blowing) are way less severe that what Hilary slivered away from. And then she had the audacity to imply James Comey is a liar.

Wikileaks has offered $20,000 for information into his death so they are taking it seriously.

They're not really sorry they rigged the primary. Hilary was down in Florida campaigning with Debbie for her re-election. Hilary only care about herself.

Hopefully the new e-mails get released sooner rather than later. I'm sure if Julian steps outside the embassy his life will be in danger. Very sad world we live in.

(August 11, 2016 at 11:36 am)Divinity Wrote: Yes, there's plenty of reasons not to trust Wikileaks.  They've mislead the media before.  It'd be stupid to take their word on anything.  Release the goddamn emails, or there's no reason to believe his stupid story.  Without evidence, his word is fucking meaningless.  Let people see the evidence themselves, or go the fuck away.

Given how many former coworkers have left Assange within the last few years because of his liberal treatment of truths and his habit of exposing people to actual danger, a combination of Assange and the Putin Pravda isn't the most credible source.

I'm sure that Hillary has a lot of skeletons in her closet, but I guess that's even more true for her opponent. It's the most negative selection of candidates I can remember when it comes to American general elections. And I'm not even sure if Dump's appeal to Russia to look into Hillary's communication has nothing to do with that interview.

Yes, I also really want to see Donald Trump's tax returns. I would bet money he's not a multi billionaire.

However, I don't see the American media as any more truthful than what yuo call Pravda. There is no outrage from them hen it's the Saudis rather than the Russians who are breaking the Geneva Convention. I actually see RT as more closely aligned with my cynical view of the world. I don't like to watch the cooperate media because they are only interested in profit.

Hillary is releasing her tax returns soon. That should put pressure on FuckFace Mcgee to release his.

(August 11, 2016 at 1:05 pm)Divinity Wrote: Hillary is releasing her tax returns soon. That should put pressure on FuckFace Mcgee to release his.

Let's hope. Maybe there come a point were Gary Johnson over takes him in the national polling. He's at 9% now and still climbing whereas Donald keeps slipping.

(August 11, 2016 at 11:41 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:

(August 11, 2016 at 11:36 am)Divinity Wrote: Yes, there's plenty of reasons not to trust Wikileaks.  They've mislead the media before.  It'd be stupid to take their word on anything.  Release the goddamn emails, or there's no reason to believe his stupid story.  Without evidence, his word is fucking meaningless.  Let people see the evidence themselves, or go the fuck away.

Well it's not so much trusting wikileaks as trusting a sociopathic rapist who has had a long history of lying through his arse. Just because Assange did one good thing in his life that doesn't suddenly absolve him of being an evil fuckhead who sees no problem in getting into bed with neo-fascist dictators.

Have you got any actual proof for these allegations?

(August 11, 2016 at 4:05 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:

(August 11, 2016 at 11:41 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: Well it's not so much trusting wikileaks as trusting a sociopathic rapist who has had a long history of lying through his arse. Just because Assange did one good thing in his life that doesn't suddenly absolve him of being an evil fuckhead who sees no problem in getting into bed with neo-fascist dictators.

Have you got any actual proof for these allegations?

Well the public relations firms for Hilary Clinton know things are about to go to shit so they have to discredit the man in any way possible. If this was anybody other than Hilary they'd have no trouble believing what came out of Wiki Leaks. We now also know the FBI wanted to investigate the Clinton Foundation - because they believe this is enough evidence for a public corruption investigation - but that they were blocked from doing so by the Department of Justice.

The dam protecting the Clinton Foundation is starting to show some cracks. We now also know that if you paid the Clinton Foundation enough money, Hilary found you a cushy job at the State Department. The Russians must be licking their lips right now - from an espionage perspective, of course they'd love Hilary as president. But the Department of Justice had the audacity to block the FBI from investigating this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMNxJM6wR94

(August 11, 2016 at 11:36 am)Divinity Wrote: Yes, there's plenty of reasons not to trust Wikileaks. They've mislead the media before. It'd be stupid to take their word on anything. Release the goddamn emails, or there's no reason to believe his stupid story. Without evidence, his word is fucking meaningless. Let people see the evidence themselves, or go the fuck away.

Ha ha! You wouldn't be slamming Asange if the email scandals were about Trump. You'd be cheering him on! This isn't the end of the scandals. More shit came out yesterday tying Hillary's State Department to her and Billy Bob's Clinton Foundation. Evidently, they seem to have been selling favors to foreign governments and special interests, among other things. Several FBI field offices have appealed to Lynch's and Obama's DOJ to investigate but so far Lynch and Obama have been running interference for Hillary. But, let the shit ball roll! More to come!

Yep, and even after we know Saudi is responsible for 9/11 they get another weapons deal worth over $1 billion. Which, of course, they can use to slaughter civilians in the Yemen. There is no end to this shenanigans.

(August 10, 2016 at 2:50 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote: He says e-mails are to come which show the United States gave weapons to DEASH (al-Saud's Henchmen in Iraq and Syria), at 19:10 in the video. Julian implies there is link with Hilary Clinton because she was secretary of state at the time. Apparently she used the invasion of Libya to give weapons to terrorists, he says.

He also said "Hilary has a brag sheet in which she documents all of the ways she led in the invasion of Libya". WTF? And apparently, even Israel is angry at how close Hilary is to Saudi.

Why is the mainstream media in the United States not really reporting on this? This is huge news. Cooperate media in the United States is not doing its job (which is to report the news).

Firstly he doesn't say that the US armed DAESH. What he says is that they armed Jihadists. We don't know yet which Jihadists the US armed. Well that's not true, we do know that this has been going on for decades, and we know about many specific groups that the US has armed, as yet we don't know for certain that they armed DAESH, but it seems to be a strong possibility, especially if intelligence believed DAESH would not construct a Caliphate. However, prior to the war hawk bombing Libya we do know that the Pentagon advised her against it because of the possibility of it leaving a vacuum for a Caliphate to be established.

The problem is that Americans refuse to accept responsibility for their actions, and the public bury their heads in the sand and pretend that the US does "good things". So this is why it's falling on deaf ears, it will take decades for Americans to accept responsibility for this, just as it took decades for them to realise their catastrophic misjudgement in the illegal Vietnam war. They haven't even accepted yet that the Iraq war was illegal.

Her connections to Saudi Arabia are atrocious. Yes, in many ways Saudi is no more extreme than many of its close neighbours, such as UAE, Egypt, and Israel. However, and I think this is important, Saudi started out much like DAESH, and overtime they have "mellowed" somewhat. Now if you wipe them out like Syria and Iraq then what happens is that you send them back two centuries to a more ruthless, more violent, more militarised paradigm. DAESH believes in establishing an ever-expanding Caliphate, whereas Saudi is happy to live within their borders, and doesn't want to set up a Caliphate (yes there is a big difference between their form of government, and a government that claims all authority over every Muslim in the world). Their interpretation of Sharia law is also stricter and more brutal than Saudi's, which again is testament to the fact that Saudi is modernising - slowly. They will eventually become a more moderate country like many European countries, it may take another century - it may take two. But if they're overturned by the US, like Syria and Iraq you can kiss that progress goodbye because a brand new Jihadist movement will arise setting progress back to the 15th century.

And we need to put this in context as well: many UAE citizens are absolutely outraged at their government's relaxed approach to dress codes and the like in the city of Dubai. And I think this just goes to show that governments can't progress beyond the malleability of the people's ideologies, and those take a long time to change. What's interesting is people go to Dubai and talk about how wonderful it is, and I always wonder - why don't you visit the rest of UAE and then tell us about how wonderful it is? It's a cleverly designed tourist attraction, but it's not reflective of the strict even 'Jihadist' type culture of the country.

If Wikileaks does have documents to prove that weapons were supplied to DAESH under Clinton's watch, then it'll be the nail in the bitch's coffin because that's the one thing that American people won't turn a blind eye to.