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The hazard of faith schools
May 14, 2011 at 10:38 am
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2011 at 12:21 pm by frankiej.)
I am currently writing about faith schools and my views opposing them.
I wish to include some ideas from people different to that of my own.
What is your opinion about faith schools?
Do you think they are dangerous for society?
I would like to recommend a short video about Muslim schools in Britain: http://atheistmovies.blogspot.com/2010/1...lamic.html
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 14, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Parents should have the right to decide what kind of education they want their children to have, which is why I'm not against faith schools. What I am against is the government supporting them, as this would be nonsecular. In other words, private faith schools are fine, but public schools shouldn't affiliate with any particular religion (though they should accept students from all religious backgrounds).
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 14, 2011 at 12:12 pm
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(May 14, 2011 at 12:04 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Parents should have the right to decide what kind of education they want their children to have, which is why I'm not against faith schools. What I am against is the government supporting them, as this would be nonsecular. In other words, private faith schools are fine, but public schools shouldn't affiliate with any particular religion (though they should accept students from all religious backgrounds).
I see indoctrinating a child in their parents faith unfair on the child, and some Muslim schools even teach about being intollerant of other beliefs... This isn't a fact for all, but I have seen some which are like this. I find it rather wicked.
However, I do agree with you on public schools, as I went to a public school and collective worship was forced upon us. I suppose this was the start of my abhorrence of religion in schools.
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 14, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Have a look at the current Australian situation, we've currently got the "national chaplaincy program", bunch of evangelical nutters have wormed their way into our supposedly secular education system and it just got a money boost in the last budget...
makes my blood boil
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 14, 2011 at 1:09 pm
(May 14, 2011 at 12:54 pm)Stue Denim Wrote: Have a look at the current Australian situation, we've currently got the "national chaplaincy program", bunch of evangelical nutters have wormed their way into our supposedly secular education system and it just got a money boost in the last budget...
makes my blood boil
I just had a read about this.
This is exactly the opposite I would like to see happen.
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 14, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I am against having " faith " schools of any kind.
Schools should include " faith " in the curiculum.....and include it with other myths and superstitions that persist.
 A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 14, 2011 at 2:26 pm
(May 14, 2011 at 2:14 pm)bozo Wrote: I am against having " faith " schools of any kind.
Schools should include " faith " in the curiculum.....and include it with other myths and superstitions that persist.
Yes I agree with that. RE class is where all things about religion should be taught. Children should not be forced into the worship of their parents religion or not even their parents religion as what happen to me as a child.
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 15, 2011 at 4:12 am
I came from a family that is so against proseletyzing and pushing religion that they won't even discuss relgion with anyone(and yes, they're Christians). On this basis I would have to say that schools of faith are a detriment to society. I was taught that education and religion should be exclusive from each other and they do not overlap, unless of course it is a class about religion. Teaching God along with physics and math only furthers the idea that religion is abolute truth and there is some factual basis behind it. If parents want their kids to be religious, they can take them to sunday school. They shouldn't dilute their education by mixing it with religion.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 15, 2011 at 4:24 am
Privately finded faith schools = yes, as long as they stick to the national curriculum on subjects such as Science, Maths and English.
Publicly funded state schools = no. Simple as.
If you want the school you want your child to attend to teach your religion as part of the learning then fine, but dont expect anyone to fucking pay for it.
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RE: The hazard of faith schools
May 15, 2011 at 4:53 am
Well lets worry about the faith schools later. From personal experiance I know for a fact that many schools still don't accept you for your race. There is always the minority student's in any school even though caucasion is the minority here in america. Although I don't believe faith schools should be around in general, Im more worried with the fact we have schools that are almost all black, hispanic and caucasian. The government has diversity laws that forces schools to have atleast small numbers of colored student's but lets face it, society is still pretty dam segregated. You don't go to a ghetto neighborhood and expect it to be all white do you? You don't go to the suburbs expecting it to be full of hispanics. All we ever do is see one black, hispanic, middle eastern ect with a good job and living in a great neighborhood and say good for you, or this place isn't what it used to be.
To quote my non biological white grandfather "This place has really gone down the drain"
I look around and see 2 black families on the street and some asians..
Not to mention we live in a pretty nice area no loud music, gunshots, gangsters, no drama in general ever.
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