Does Estonia have thought police?

Always wondered what QED means. Never knew it was "this shit be obvious".

(August 23, 2016 at 7:40 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: God of the gaps is a silly argument and especially silly since the gaps slowly get filled in, we see more and more filled in all the time. In this day and age we literally see them filled in as we go.

We won't see all of them being filled in our lifetime. And our distant decendants won't see them filled. We know more than the cavemen looking up at the sky and calling sun and moon gods, but there's still a plethora of things we don't know and won't know for a long time to come. I doubt there will ever be an age of absolute knowledge.

But that's OK. We still don't need gods as fillers for something we don't know as of yet. The argument isn't silly at all, because the ones seeing god behind every dark corner are basically still cavemen. On a higher level maybe, but still desperately in need of having a supernatural explanation for the unexplained.

Watching as their fucking god slowly becomes less and less relevant should trigger in theists a sense of pattern recognition which would tell them where this whole thing is going.  Sadly, for the stupider among them, that is where blind faith comes in.

(August 23, 2016 at 6:50 am)theBorg Wrote: "God of the gaps" is a term used to describe observations of theological perspectives in which gaps in scientific knowledge are taken to be evidence or proof of God's existence... how wrong it is to use God as a stop-gap for the incompleteness of our knowledge. (Wikipedia 2016).

Theorem: it is wiser to let the God in the ship's hold gap, until the secular science will find the secular stop-gap. Proof: "it is just obvious." More is here:

But while the "white spot" or the “gap” (the gap in the secular view of the world) is not closed by the secular science, let the gap be closed by the True God Himself. If is needed, the God will make the additional room for the secular science. But why to tear the God from all the white spots? Otherwise our society (like a ship) will sink in the "sin-deeds-sea" due to huge ugly holes in the knowledge!

Here is the thing i don't believe in god i already had a shaky belief from the start during child hood even then science itself made more since than god did it. 
So here is the thing early man used god because of the limited understanding of the world, sure they knew it was wrong and revolved around the sun but they were
limited in technology and understanding. Here we are in the 21st century we have advanced telescopes, a large hadron collider, we know evolution happened, and we have
been to space multiple times even put objects in space such as the ISS. There is no excuse... to believe in god anymore the god of the gaps so damn small as it is once
we get to a point were we have a grand unified theory of everything and find out the origins of the universe.. the idea of god even before then should be non existent. 
But as it stands you have people like WLC and others using junk science to prove their point science cannot science properly via word salad. It can be even seen with Sye Ten
the problem is... even with the belief in god it comes down to the fact it's a evolutionary belief is i cant really blame on a believer since most of them have been brain washed into the
belief at such a young age. But then again the information is there and even on the internet and museums it is up to them to look at the evidence and no me explaining to them.

(August 23, 2016 at 6:50 am)theBorg Wrote: "God of the gaps" is a term used to describe observations of theological perspectives in which gaps in scientific knowledge are taken to be evidence or proof of God's existence... how wrong it is to use God as a stop-gap for the incompleteness of our knowledge. (Wikipedia 2016).

Theorem: it is wiser to let the God in the ship's hold gap, until the secular science will find the secular stop-gap. Proof: "it is just obvious." More is here:

But while the "white spot" or the “gap” (the gap in the secular view of the world) is not closed by the secular science, let the gap be closed by the True God Himself. If is needed, the God will make the additional room for the secular science. But why to tear the God from all the white spots? Otherwise our society (like a ship) will sink in the "sin-deeds-sea" due to huge ugly holes in the knowledge!

First of all you don't know what theorem means so don't use that word.

And first of all god says he is all knowing and that he provides all information in his/her book(s).

And secondly...
Just because science hasn't answered something doesn't mean it can't.

And lastly...
For a long time we didn't know what water was made out of (FYI, H20)
And now we do because of science and with that we can infer that science will do the same to all questions.

I'll be nice, god is a hypothesis (even though he is not testable).

This science inference is a theory.

lolwut

(August 23, 2016 at 11:16 am)TheRealJoeFish Wrote: lolwut

Lovely, beautiful, couldn't have said it better my self...

(August 23, 2016 at 10:51 am)abaris Wrote:

(August 23, 2016 at 7:40 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: God of the gaps is a silly argument and especially silly since the gaps slowly get filled in, we see more and more filled in all the time. In this day and age we literally see them filled in as we go.

We won't see all of them being filled in our lifetime. And our distant decendants won't see them filled. We know more than the cavemen looking up at the sky and calling sun and moon gods, but there's still a plethora of things we don't know and won't know for a long time to come. I doubt there will ever be an age of absolute knowledge.

But that's OK. We still don't need gods as fillers for something we don't know as of yet. The argument isn't silly at all, because the ones seeing god behind every dark corner are basically still cavemen. On a higher level maybe, but still desperately in need of having a supernatural explanation for the unexplained.

No, we'll never see them all fill in. Science will never give us all the answers, in fact we probably only have a tiny tiny tiny percentage of the total knowledge available. That isn't a good reason to believe in God though. If people have believed that God caused A, B and C, then we find a natural explanation for A and B, it seems unlikely that God will be responsible for C. It's silly. It's just the modern equivalent of those cavemen trying to explain the world around them and failing to do so correctly.