Why disbelievers believe? They believe in so called “God of the gaps”.

[purplepurpose]

Arkilogue, I would say for people who enjoy pride, independence and pleasure, Gods existance is an insult, because it demands to become God fearing slaves.

[Arkilogue]

Arkilogue, I would say for people who enjoy pride, independence and pleasure, Gods existance is an insult, because it demands to become God fearing slaves.

I'm of the opinion they've been false flagged.

Say I write a letter to you from "Bob" and he tells you what a pathetic piece of crap you are. I deliver the letter, you read it and get pissed and I agree with you, "Yes! Bob is a total douchebag!"

Hook line and sinker.

[The Grand Nudger]

Maybe this viewpoint you're both fan-ficing about -is- the letter from bob? Christians...for example.... enjoy pride, independence, and pleasure....and yet.......

You see, a great many people don;t have any adverse reaction to the converse of those things you were discussing...nor have they been presented with a narrative which assume the truth of gods desire -for- them.......and still they don;t believe. They don't believe.....because you are not compelling. They would...just as marks all over the world believe in con men all over the world...if you were. So, you could blame the failures of others to believe in whatever x you're peddling on a whole host of things, if that's something that interests you...but ultimately, those attributions are pathetically weak. It's you...just you, you're the problems. A smoother operator would have long ago convinced people of x. It happens all day every day, everywhere, regardless of the truth of x.

Congratulations.

[robvalue]

Poe-lease stop this.

[Cyberman]

Nope, the hand is flesh, blood bone and muscle, there is no Man in the hand.

Have you led a sheltered life.

[Cyberman]

My point is; what if the laws we've discovered, that are regular and working in the universe, like electromagnetism, are working parts of God? They are unfolded from an original unity.

Ok, I'll bite. What if?

Now your turn - what if not?

[Arkilogue]

Nope, the hand is flesh, blood bone and muscle, there is no Man in the hand.

Have you led a sheltered life.

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My point is; what if the laws we've discovered, that are regular and working in the universe, like electromagnetism, are working parts of God? They are unfolded from an original unity.

Ok, I'll bite. What if?

Now your turn - what if not?

Then the universe is a pro-creation with determinable pattern from the self expression of a living being and it is still inside that living being.
The universe is not "intelligently designed" by some super duper smart, inevitably male, "scientist" God who thunk it all up and *poofed* it into existence over there somewhere.

If not, it's still a much better story than 99% of the religious paradigms out there. What do you think the world would be like if the major religions regarded all of creation and especially this earth as sacred and a self expression of the Living God?


There are 2 major types of navigation on this planet: 1 facts and thought, 2 stories and emotion. What do you think most of the world operates by?

[Rhondazvous]

"God of the gaps" is a term used to describe observations of theological perspectives in which gaps in scientific knowledge are taken to be evidence or proof of God's existence... how wrong it is to use God as a stop-gap for the incompleteness of our knowledge. (Wikipedia 2016).

Theorem: it is wiser to let the God in the ship's hold gap, until the secular science will find the secular stop-gap. Proof: "it is just obvious." More is here:

But while the "white spot" or the “gap” (the gap in the secular view of the world) is not closed by the secular science, let the gap be closed by the True God Himself. If is needed, the God will make the additional room for the secular science. But why to tear the God from all the white spots? Otherwise our society (like a ship) will sink in the "sin-deeds-sea" due to huge ugly holes in the knowledge!

Why does the gap have to be filled? To call it ugly is to call space ugly. They are both infinite. Just like there will always be empty space, no matter how much scientists learn there will always be things we don’t know.

So you propose that we use a god who doesn’t exist to fill a gap that can’t be filled. Makes sense.

[theBorg]

the gaps slowly get filled in, we see more and more filled

Quote: "Why it is wiser to assume we know the answers to things we don't know rather than admit we don't until we do?"

See: the Christian God is needed to stop the violence and terrorism. The Christian God teaches to love your personal enemy. The fact, what the killing can be allowed, does not take away the fact, that killing is unwanted: the Christian God does not like the killings.

Therefore, when child of the disbeliever asks: "how the Big Bang came about?" The disbeliever should answer: "I am follower of the secular science, not the theology. But because the secular science has not explained this wonder of singularity, I advise you to acknowledge the theology point of view."

[bennyboy]

There are 2 major types of navigation on this planet: 1 facts and thought, 2 stories and emotion.  What do you think most of the world operates by?

Dude, you gotta stop enumerating bullshit points and acting as though you've said something meaningful.  What you listed are NOT major types of navigation.  (1) is a vague pairing of a specific philosophical idea with human cognition in general; (2) is a vague pairing of a literary form with human feelings.

Maybe your 13 year-old girlfriends or whatever think that this deepity shit is actually deep.  But unless you can get them to join this forum, please stop doing this.

Then the universe is a pro-creation with determinable pattern from the self expression of a living being and it is still inside that living being.

. . . and again.  Dude, if I wrote a program to pick random word parts and put them together with a period at the end, I think I could pass the Turing Test-- because I can prove that at least one real person in the world does this.  Any guess who I'm talking about?