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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 6:35 am
(August 26, 2016 at 11:41 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Feminism seems to come in for some hard knocks wherever atheists gather. So I thought I'd ask you to listen to this song I just came across and see what your reaction might be?
Oh what the hell. Simple enough to make a poll about it but feel free to go off on a tirade as the spirit moves you.
Poll question?: What is your reaction to the song?
a) She is a typical ball-biting, fem-nazi bitch, nuff said?
b) Seems a little whiny.
c) I can appreciate where she is coming from.
d) Fuck yeah, sister. Tell it!
https://youtu.be/GuG8dMulga4
Its all about intent isn't it. Does someone mean to belittle you by calling you honey or do they just not know your name and use it as a filler. The woman at a local shop says "there you go hun" when she gives me change. Should I be offended?
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 6:48 am
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I am a guy and live in rural Kentucky. I am called by these diminutive terms everyday. While this singer is referring to men using pick up lines the tense is still diminutive. I don' t like it. I have a name . I do not like being called Sir either. Honey, Sugar, Sweetie. It is best reserved for very small children.
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 9:22 am
The guy she's talking about might be a bit sexist. Giving her unwarranted hugs, patting her on the back, looking her up and down, calling her sweetie, hon and girl.
However, it sounds like she only doesn't like it because the guy is old.
She says she's something special and twice as smart and that he wouldn't know what to do with her if he had her.
So she sounds a bit ageist as well.
Personally, her facial expressions really annoy me. She thinks she's all that.
I could be biased, as I'm on the verge of entering the old fart club. :-)
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 9:47 am
(August 26, 2016 at 11:47 pm)ScienceAf Wrote: First of all men don't catcall that much. A women walked around for 10 HOURS and recived a few "hey, good mornin'"'s
And why can't I call you honey, I won't be rude.
It just means I think you look nice.
Calling someone honey is not sexist.
Saying a woman can't go to school is sexist.
Saying a woman "asked for it" is sexist.
Sweet and subtle compliments on your appearance is not sexist.
She should get her priorities straight.
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 10:18 am
(August 27, 2016 at 6:35 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (August 26, 2016 at 11:41 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Feminism seems to come in for some hard knocks wherever atheists gather. So I thought I'd ask you to listen to this song I just came across and see what your reaction might be?
Oh what the hell. Simple enough to make a poll about it but feel free to go off on a tirade as the spirit moves you.
Poll question?: What is your reaction to the song?
a) She is a typical ball-biting, fem-nazi bitch, nuff said?
b) Seems a little whiny.
c) I can appreciate where she is coming from.
d) Fuck yeah, sister. Tell it!
https://youtu.be/GuG8dMulga4
Its all about intent isn't it. Does someone mean to belittle you by calling you honey or do they just not know your name and use it as a filler. The woman at a local shop says "there you go hun" when she gives me change. Should I be offended?
I wouldn't be. I'd appreciate the casual friendliness. Of course if she patted me on the tush I'd expect at least a tug job too.
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 10:25 am
(August 27, 2016 at 6:48 am)chimp3 Wrote: I am a guy and live in rural Kentucky. I am called by these diminutive terms everyday. While this singer is referring to men using pick up lines the tense is still diminutive. I don' t like it. I have a name . I do not like being called Sir either. Honey, Sugar, Sweetie. It is best reserved for very small children.
I'll try to remember that, sug. j/k of course but it just goes to show how little one can take for granted. So long as you can let it roll off your back if you unintentionally overstep, you'll survive.
I don't tend to be very adventurous in this way myself. But I've never felt anything but pleased when women address me that way. Not sure whether I'm basking in the warm glow of their maternal concern or imagining I was their main squeeze. Either way, I like it.
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 10:29 am
(August 27, 2016 at 9:22 am)Little lunch Wrote: The guy she's talking about might be a bit sexist. Giving her unwarranted hugs, patting her on the back, looking her up and down, calling her sweetie, hon and girl.
However, it sounds like she only doesn't like it because the guy is old.
She says she's something special and twice as smart and that he wouldn't know what to do with her if he had her.
So she sounds a bit ageist as well.
Personally, her facial expressions really annoy me. She thinks she's all that.
I could be biased, as I'm on the verge of entering the old fart club. :-)
I'll hold the door open for you. Funny about the agist angle. It seems to be more common for older women to use those terms on a guy of any age, than it is to come from a younger woman. I'd mostly chalk that up to experience and confidence. But when you reverse it and it is an older guy calling the young ladies those things, the effect is tainted by the number of old fart pervs like D Trump out there.
*In the interest of full disclosure, I'll point out that I'm not actually a perv. I only play one on the internet.
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 1:11 pm
(This post was last modified: August 27, 2016 at 1:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
More variations on a theme. Lol, -20th- century empowerment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi_mSrvy52Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C21-l0idoeo
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 1:35 pm
We have a serious cultural problem here. I think we are more compelled than ever to make a black or white judgment about almost everything, and I think this is a product of social media.
Why is it that people who do not belong to a certain group feel that it's ok to make a value judgment about that group? Specifically, how can someone who is white possibly understand what it is like to go through life as a black person? How can a woman possibly understand what it's like to go through life as a man, and more specific to this very thread, how can a man make a judgment about what women go through and feel in everyday life?
Can't we quit judging and taking everything personally and just observe what is going on and listen to people!?
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RE: Sexism/feminism: what's your reaction to this song?
August 27, 2016 at 1:36 pm
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