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The stupidity of sin
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 (October 2, 2016 at 12:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: 'Sin' is simply 'unbelief'... Which is still as dumb as the last time you said it. If Jesus died for my "unbelief," what the hell do I need to believe in him for?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
 RE: The stupidity of sin
October 2, 2016 at 2:44 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2016 at 2:44 pm by Arkilogue.)
Anyone know what the word "sin" comes from and what it meant in context?
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder 
It is strange that a god would make people capable of thinking for themselves, and get mad whenever they start thinking differently from him. One of the biggest sins is unbelief, and since belief in the Abrahamic god relies on faith, then is it really that surprising that most people don't believe he exists? Then you have the whole issue about sex. The most fundamantal aspect of any species, and it's basically a sin to do it outside a very specific context.
You have a god that says slavery, rape, and mass murder is ok, within certain boundaries. Yet consenting same sex adults making love is an abomination. The new testament may be slightly better, but the majority of the bible is the old testament, and there's very little positive to say about it.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html  (October 2, 2016 at 2:23 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(October 2, 2016 at 12:43 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: 'Sin' is simply 'unbelief'... Do you accept that he died for your "unbelief"?  RE: The stupidity of sin
October 2, 2016 at 3:05 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2016 at 3:06 pm by Kernel Sohcahtoa.)
@Rob Value
I actually went to a Christian university for a graduate program in conflict resolution and reconciliation. Now, the main understanding that I gained throughout my studies was that Christianity is based in peace, acceptance, and mutual understanding. In particular, I-Thou and I-It relationships, conceptions of Martin Buber, were highly emphasized and linked to the peacemaking concepts in our courses. In a nutshell, in I-Thou relationships, people embrace tolerance, mutual respect, acceptance, and understanding and regard one another as unique ends in themselves, and from a religious perspective, this is because everyone is interconnected to a greater reality of love (God); therefore, establishing I-Thou relationships is a way to put this love or God's love into practice. On the other hand, in I-It relationships, people treat others as objects to serve their own ends. Regarding Christianity, I-It relations can cause its practitioners to impose their personal truth and normalcy onto their faith and onto others, which can result in fear, dehumanization, hostility, and disconnection; thus, contradicting the principles of peace, love, humanness, and connection espoused by Christianity. Now, I have mentioned these ideas for the following reason: would you say that the concept of sin is a product of I-IT relations? Do you think Christianity would be more effective if its practitioners behaved in an I-Thou manner? Thanks for your time and attention, sir. References Buber, Martin. I and Thou. Simon & Schuster: New York, 1970.  (October 2, 2016 at 2:44 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Anyone know what the word "sin" comes from and what it meant in context? I think you missed the mark on that one, buddy. That's ok though; you're only human, and not perfect.
“Life is like a grapefruit. Well, it's sort of orangey-yellow and dimpled on the outside, wet and squidgy in the middle. It's got pips inside, too. Oh, and some people have half a one for breakfast.” - Ford Prefect
RE: The stupidity of sin
October 2, 2016 at 3:49 pm
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2016 at 3:49 pm by Arkilogue.)
(October 2, 2016 at 3:24 pm)Primordial Bisque Wrote:(October 2, 2016 at 2:44 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Anyone know what the word "sin" comes from and what it meant in context? It doesn't require a perfect man to make a perfect shot. ![[Image: Bullseye_ZevenDesign.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.gospeltoday.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F08%2FBullseye_ZevenDesign.jpg) It requires trying again, over and over and over, failure after failure after failure till you honed the skill required to hit the mark more often than not. And practice may never ever amount to perfect...but it's orders of magnitude better than none.
"Leave it to me to find a way to be,
Consider me a satellite forever orbiting, I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder  |
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