I think god belief is silly, but hey, if it works for you, knock yourself out. Just don't expect t me to take it seriously.

(October 28, 2016 at 8:47 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: My environment was evangelical lutheran until age 13. That's when what I was being told by the religious stopped making sense. 

If you are equating santa claus to god, lets throw the tooth fairy and unicorns into the mix. To you are they all real?

and if you had no education then you might not have had the comprehensive skills to discern the way you did. right? you cant think of any scenario that would have kept your false belief? 

and no, im saying kids believe in santa, that doesnt make them different. not a great example. but believing in god doesnt make a person different. different ideas and beliefs yeah. 

i suppose im not quite sure what you mean when you say "they arent stupid, just different." people have contradictory beliefs all the time unrelated to god and religion. id call it stupid personally, but cheers to you for taking the high road.

(October 28, 2016 at 8:52 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I think god belief is silly, but hey, if it works for you, knock yourself out.  Just don't expect t me to take it seriously.

naturally. i dont believe in god, yet. i believe there are more intelligent beings. 

possibly near infinitely more intelligent. but i wont get ahead of myself

Quote:well, doesnt sound like you hate the belief in god, just the wrongdoing of people who do.

Almost.  There is no point in despising something which does not exist. 

But motherfuckers who kill for their favorite fairy tale?  Yeah.  I have a big problem with them.

edit: can i delete a post?

(October 28, 2016 at 8:56 pm)goombah111 Wrote:

(October 28, 2016 at 8:47 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: My environment was evangelical lutheran until age 13. That's when what I was being told by the religious stopped making sense. 

If you are equating santa claus to god, lets throw the tooth fairy and unicorns into the mix. To you are they all real?

and if you had no education then you might not have had the comprehensive skills to discern the way you did. right? you cant think of any scenario that would have kept your false belief? 

and no, im saying kids believe in santa, that doesnt make them different. not a great example. but believing in god doesnt make a person different. different ideas and beliefs yeah. 

i suppose im not quite sure what you mean when you say "they arent stupid, just different." people have contradictory beliefs all the time unrelated to god and religion. id call it stupid personally, but cheers to you for taking the high road.

Scenarios: Home schooling with all religious books, church schooling, no TV, no radio, frontal lobotomy, stroke, application of Deuteronomy 21:18-21, .........

Believing in god makes that person different from me. Not usually intolerable, not usually stupid, but different.

isnt everyone different from you?

and the way you explain the scenario is pretty insulting and implies that you would have to be stupid. IE frontal lobotomy and stroke.

theres that cognitive dissonance you were so incapable of. i guess youre not so different after all

(October 28, 2016 at 9:12 pm)goombah111 Wrote: Scenarios: Home schooling with all religious books, church schooling, no TV, no radio, frontal lobotomy, stroke, application of Deuteronomy 21:18-21, .........

Believing in god makes that person different from me. Not usually intolerable, not usually stupid, but different.

isnt everyone different from you?

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In some ways yes, others no. 
Tell us more about this infinite mind/intelligence.

(October 28, 2016 at 9:16 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

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In some ways yes, others no. 
Tell us more about this infinite mind/intelligence.

aliens? idk, i believe they are out there. and i believe its possible that they are worlds ahead in terms of intelligence. the implications of this high intelligence are too tough to speculate on. 

we can joke around about ideas, but who knows for sure what they would be capable of if they existed.

from what ive been taught, i believe aliens are out there by sheer numbers. now, this belief has no evidence, but i choose to believe it because it makes sense to me.

most religions and ideas of god dont make sense to me, ive watched enough television to know a plot hole when i see one. but like a good movie with a huge plot hole, there is some potential to be explored.

So, OP, of whom are you a sock?

(October 28, 2016 at 9:29 pm)The_Empress Wrote: So, OP, of whom are you a sock?

a sock?