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**Alex K** · November 4, 2016 at 1:00 am

**robvalue** · November 4, 2016 at 1:03 am

Erm, you can't exactly say a definition is wrong when no one ever agreed on one in the first place.

Is it necessary to write everything in varying text size and colours? Tongue

It makes it a bit hard to read.

~~ProgrammingGodJordan~~

(November 4, 2016 at 12:46 am)robvalue Wrote: It's a fair hypothesis that this is some sort of simulation, yeah. It appears unfalsifiable to me, although it's certainly interesting. I'm concerned there is a fallacy of composition included in the hypothesis though, and it requires several assumptions.

The universe simulation hypothesis (particularly relating to our universe) is the least relevant scenario mentioned. (As seen in solely ONE god-tier, #3)

Primarily, A God bound entity likely has the ability to create non-trivial intelligence (The most complex constructs in the known universe human level, and likely beyond)

Thereafter, on Moore's Law etc, we are likely on the horizon of creating such non-trivial intelligence.

(NOTE: Brain based models already exceed/equal humans on non trivial cognitive tasks, ranging from language translation to disease diagnosis)

(November 4, 2016 at 1:03 am)robvalue Wrote: Erm, you can't exactly say a definition is wrong when no one ever agreed on one in the first place.

Is it necessary to write everything in varying text size and colours? It makes it a bit hard to read.

Note [0] : I am not saying anything. Rather, I need not say anything. On observation of statistics, (trivially observable by any non-brain damaged being) such a definition of God is naturally, statistically observable. (See the note atop the original post, pertaining to abstinence from opinion/say)

Therein, there are already existent definitions of God, which are likely wrong, on statistical observation.

Note [1]: I was attempting to shorten the content. The simple 3 minute passage seems to be 2 hours long absent text variation.

ApeNotKillApe · (This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 3:11 am by ApeNotKillApe.)

(November 4, 2016 at 12:52 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: BTW, Are you referring to Michael I. Jordan, machine learning professor?

If so, I would entirely observe your commentary, as accurate.

I'm saying that in a family that has a guy who not only had a Hitler mustache but was also the star of fucking Space Jam, you're the loser.

dyresand · (This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 2:13 am by dyresand.)

no one has proof of god.. and the religious are just.. well too caught up to even bother to look for proof they resort to nature.
in other words if we had proof this is a good example.
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**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 3:04 am by The Grand Nudger.)

(November 4, 2016 at 12:34 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: Primarily, A God bound entity likely has the ability to create non-trivial intelligence (The most complex constructs in the known universe human level, and likely beyond)

Thereafter, on Moore's Law etc, we are likely on the horizon of creating such non-trivial intelligence.

(NOTE: Brain based models already exceed/equal humans on non trivial cognitive tasks, ranging from language translation to disease diagnosis)

I already created 5 examples of non-trivial intelligence, moores law seems like useless reference with regards to some future event when the claimed future event has been ongoing for nearly a quarter billion years. Speaking of trivialities, your use of the term "god-bound" this and thats.....

~~ProgrammingGodJordan~~

(November 4, 2016 at 2:56 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(November 4, 2016 at 12:34 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: Primarily, A God bound entity likely has the ability to create non-trivial intelligence (The most complex constructs in the known universe human level, and likely beyond)

Thereafter, on Moore's Law etc, we are likely on the horizon of creating such non-trivial intelligence.

(NOTE: Brain based models already exceed/equal humans on non trivial cognitive tasks, ranging from language translation to disease diagnosis)

I already created 5 examples of non-trivial intelligence, moores law seems like useless reference with regards to some future event when the claimed future event has been ongoing for nearly a quarter billion years. Speaking of trivialities, your use of the term "god-bound" this and thats.....

['A']

I too, have written examples of non-trivial intelligence, ranging from scratch written, basic (using basic java, rather than mxnet/lasagne/torche/...) neural networks for letter recognition, to high level neural models (using mxnet) for heart irregularity detection (achieving 76/500+ on global kaggle scale).

I also do hypothetical research on a phenomenon I call 'thought curvature'. This is based on modern reinforcement learning, deep causal learning (ie uetorch, learning physical intuitions from tower blocks) AND clues from quantum computing mathematics. (See 'thought curvature').

['B']

Your commentary is nonsensical.

YOU ARE IGNORING:
[0] We are likely ending the regime of predominant Von Neumann architectures, and entering other regimes, including non-cpu aligned neuro-synaptic chips.

EXAMPLE:
IBM is already composing these neuro-synaptic chips. (See ibm synapse)
IBM Researcher Dharmendra Modha - "Before the end of 2020 we will be able to produce a brain in box".

[1] It is not difficult to observe that graphs of technological expansion initially appear quite horizontal, thereafter approaching apparently exponential transitions.

['C']

General intelligence already exists in non-trivial degrees. (See atari q player or alpha go)
It won't be long before there is brain based hardware that approximates human neuronal computation cycles; 10^15 flops. (Moore's Law)

NOTE:
However models (seen in '['A']') though non trivial, are trivial in comparison to the human intellect.
As defined (in the original post), a God bound entity is such that possesses the ability to create non trivial intellect, that EXCEEDS the net intellect of it's species. The models you or I have written, have thus far not EXCEEDED humans on all tasks.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 4:22 am by The Grand Nudger.)

I didn't write them, lol, I found a warm place to put my penis. Apparently that rules me in as a god bound entity. Talk about little g gods.

(if the posts you've deigned to drop are any indication of our species net intellect... I'm confident that my children have us smoked)

~~ProgrammingGodJordan~~

(November 4, 2016 at 2:13 am)dyresand Wrote: no one has proof of god.. and the religious are just.. well too caught up to even bother to look for proof they resort to nature.
in other words if we had proof this is a good example.

Albeit, statistically, our intellect is shown to be likely 'CREATABLE'.

Brain based models already exceed/equal humans in non-trivial, cognitive tasks, ranging from language translation to disease diagnosis.

Brain based hardware shall likely approach human neural computation cycles by 2020 (Moore's Law)

At this juncture, it is likely that such models exceed humans on all tasks, rather than individual tasks/task groups as is typical this day.

(November 4, 2016 at 4:18 am)Rhythm Wrote: I didn't write them, lol, I found a warm place to put my penis. Apparently that rules me in as a god bound entity. Talk about little g gods.

(if the posts you've deigned to drop are any indication of our species net intellect... I'm confident that my children have us smoked)

[*A*]

Some jobs are already replaceable by these brain based models.

Depending on your childrens' focuses, they might be completely irrelevant (job-wise) not too far away.

[*B*]

Two years ago I told a girl that did Spanish interpretation course, that her degree was essentially worthless, as brain based models were soon likely to exceed/equal human performance.

In a theistic manner, she responded that her talents were unique, untouchable.
Of course, we now know how that faired; now skype translates 40 languages real time and there exist language translation 'earbuds'. (Based on recurrent neural models|long short term memory|convolutional neural nets)

[*D*]
You are not ruled out from contributing to the creation of general artificial intelligence.
Many free neural network/machine learning courses are available. I would begin with Geoffrey Hinton's neural network coursera course.

(November 4, 2016 at 1:56 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote:
(November 4, 2016 at 12:52 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: BTW, Are you referring to Michael I. Jordan, machine learning professor?

If so, I would entirely observe your commentary, as accurate.

I'm saying that in a family that has a guy who not only had a Hitler mustache but was also the star of fucking Space Jam, you're the loser.

It is statistically likely that I lose as time diverges. I have lost, and won.

ApeNotKillApe · (This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 4:52 am by ApeNotKillApe.)

(November 4, 2016 at 4:23 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote:

(November 4, 2016 at 1:56 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: I'm saying that in a family that has a guy who not only had a Hitler mustache but was also the star of fucking Space Jam, you're the loser.

It is statistically likely that I loose as time diverges. I have lost, and won.

Wow. That's really deep.

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