(December 29, 2016 at 9:32 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 9:30 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: Keep in mind that belief means to accept as true (not partially true, or scientifically true) but true/absolute.

AFTER that,

Keep in mind that in our reference frames, we don’t at any time do TOTAL/absolute scientific actions, simply because our reference frames occur on distinct SLICES of time, OF MANY MANY DISTINCT SLICES.

Right! Binary vs. Non-binary!

Incorrect.

We at best, regard as LIKELY/scientifically true, rather than absolute/true.
Belief is to accept as TRUE/ABSOLUTE.

Thusly, belief exists not.
So, there but exists solely non-belief. (rather than belief and non-belief)

(December 29, 2016 at 9:36 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 9:32 am)chimp3 Wrote: Right! Binary vs. Non-binary!

Incorrect.

We at best, regard as LIKELY/scientifically true, rather than absolute/true.
Belief is to accept as TRUE/ABSOLUTE.

Thusly, belief exists not.
So, there but exists solely non-belief. (rather than belief and non-belief)

If I said I 'believe' you're a dingus, that means I'm absolutely certain that you're a dingus?  I'm aight with that.

(December 29, 2016 at 9:36 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 9:32 am)chimp3 Wrote: Right! Binary vs. Non-binary!

Incorrect.

We at best, regard as LIKELY/scientifically true, rather than absolute/true.
Belief is to accept as TRUE/ABSOLUTE.

Thusly, belief exists not.
So, there but exists solely non-belief. (rather than belief and non-belief)

OK! Scientifically true vs. absolute true! Not binary thinking at all.

(December 29, 2016 at 9:38 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 9:36 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote: Incorrect.

We at best, regard as LIKELY/scientifically true, rather than absolute/true.
Belief is to accept as TRUE/ABSOLUTE.

Thusly, belief exists not.
So, there but exists solely non-belief. (rather than belief and non-belief)

OK! Scientifically true vs. absolute true! Not binary thinking at all.

Correct.

Indeed, absolute truth is scientifically UNFOUNDED.

(December 29, 2016 at 9:40 am)ProgrammingGodJordan Wrote:

(December 29, 2016 at 9:38 am)chimp3 Wrote: OK! Scientifically true vs. absolute true! Not binary thinking at all.

Correct.

Indeed, absolute truth is scientifically UNFOUNDED.

Does your cult require hats?

ProgrammingGodJordan, how to you deal with, lust, it being of the strongest emotions human mind possess? Do you view it as a problem to your "evolution"? Or you "turn off robot mode" and enjoy feelings?

We all have conditional beliefs based on pragmatic assumptions. We wouldn't be able to learn anything or function without them. You'd just be flailing around in the dark, or doing nothing at all.

I don't have certainty in anything, and that's all I can hope you're getting at. A belief doesn't have to be certainty. It's just a way of navigating reality. It's an idea of how things seem to work, within the assumed framework. Maybe nothing is real and all our ideas are wrong. All we can do is work with what appears to be going on, and what works.

Not having peconceptions is good. Accepting that all belief/knowledge is conditional is good. Questioning everything is good. Recognizing that certainty is dangerous, is good. Saying you don't have any beliefs is ridiculous, or at least, it's using a very weird definition for "belief". You've made several beliefs you have clear in every post.

@ProgrammingGodJordan : What do you think about Ayn Rand and Objectivism?

(December 29, 2016 at 9:49 am)robvalue Wrote: We all have conditional beliefs based on pragmatic assumptions. We wouldn't be able to learn anything or function without them. You'd just be flailing around in the dark, or doing nothing at all.

I don't have certainty in anything, and that's all I can hope you're getting at. A belief doesn't have to be certainty. It's just a way of navigating reality.

Not having peconceptions is good. Accepting that all belief/knowledge is conditional is good. Questioning everything is good. Recognizing that certainty is dangerous, is good. Saying you don't have any beliefs is ridiculous, or at least, it's using a very weird definition for "belief".

(1)
I had utilized the topmost google definition:

Belief: an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

.
.
.
.

(2)
Humans inherently do things probabilistically.

At no time, does any one regard any process as TRUE/ABSOLUTE. (No belief)

We rather regard sequences as LIKELY/Scientifically true.

Keep in mind that existence is at best, fundamentally, of PROBABILISTIC nature.

Er..that definition of 'belief' you linked is not the topmost google definition. For someone with such a hard-on for semantics, you shouldn't crowbar in your own additions and then call it the 'top google definition.'