There also not going to find anything in their investigations, to me this just seems like witch hunt. Close the blinds and change the channel to avoid the man plotting ageist you to be seen in his real form. That is all that will be accomplished, its not even worth the time to look into it further for me.

Most of the Latinos I know voted for Trump. It was not only whites who voted for him.

(March 22, 2017 at 9:04 pm)Sterben Wrote: There also not going to find anything in their investigations, to me this just seems like witch hunt. Close the blinds and change the channel to avoid the man plotting ageist you to be seen in his real form. That is all that will be accomplished, its not even worth the time to look into it further for me.

The lion doesn't leave when the ostrich buries its head.

If you want to remain ignorant of those connections, great, turn off the news and continue feasting on your mental cotton-candy.

You don't seem to understand what's at stake ... and you've just admitted that you don't want to. How pathetic is that?

"I have brown friends"



Latinos overwhelmingly voted for Hillary, Polaris, in a record breaking year for both latino vote counts and disparity of vote ratios between major parties. 79-18 Clinton.

(March 28, 2017 at 9:47 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(March 22, 2017 at 9:04 pm)Sterben Wrote: There also not going to find anything in their investigations, to me this just seems like witch hunt. Close the blinds and change the channel to avoid the man plotting ageist you to be seen in his real form. That is all that will be accomplished, its not even worth the time to look into it further for me.

The lion doesn't leave when the ostrich buries its head.

If you want to remain ignorant of those connections, great, turn off the news and continue feasting on your mental cotton-candy.

You don't seem to understand what's at stake ... and you've just admitted that you don't want to.  How pathetic is that?

          I do understand what is occurring, it is something that be avoided entirely, only the impact can be soften. It's a problem that occurs to every empire through out every empire. The U.S has grown too big big to keep under control and demonstrate a type of logic that is needed to maintain a empire of this size. A single lion can only hunt so many ostriches, we could scream as loud as you can in the streets. You can go on national television and be on every channel warning people on what is going to happen, but few will listen. Since I know the phases of most every empire, it's human nature that is at fault here. Instead of myself trying to warn people, why would I want to go to these lengths to help people, when these people can't help themselves?

         You must be one hell of a masochist, to want to try to wake people up from this dream state we exist in. I wish you the best of luck on trying to improve things, as for a person who tried a few times with no success in educating people on what is happening. The ship is going down and there is no life boat or aid on it's way to help us. The more intelligent in this type of situation save themselves over others, and I'm saving myself first.

(March 28, 2017 at 6:23 pm)Sterben Wrote:

(March 28, 2017 at 9:47 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The lion doesn't leave when the ostrich buries its head.

If you want to remain ignorant of those connections, great, turn off the news and continue feasting on your mental cotton-candy.

You don't seem to understand what's at stake ... and you've just admitted that you don't want to.  How pathetic is that?

          I do understand what is occurring, it is something that be avoided entirely, only the impact can be soften. It's a problem that occurs to every empire through out every empire. The U.S has grown too big big to keep under control and demonstrate a type of logic that is needed to maintain a empire of this size. A single lion can only hunt so many ostriches, we could scream as loud as you can in the streets. You can go on national television and be on every channel warning people on what is going to happen, but few will listen. Since I know the phases of most every empire, it's human nature that is at fault here. Instead of myself trying to warn people, why would I want to go to these lengths to help people, when these people can't help themselves?

         You must be one hell of a masochist, to want to try to wake people up from this dream state we exist in. I wish you the best of luck on trying to improve things, as for a person who tried a few times with no success in educating people on what is happening. The ship is going down and there is no life boat or aid on it's way to help us. The more intelligent in this type of situation save themselves over others, and I'm saving myself first.

Oooh, well you're clearly too smart for me to continue this conversation ... even though you're the one expressing a preference for ignorance. Then you top it off by making the assumption -- and that's all it is, a fatuous assumption -- that I'm not well-read on history. The fact that that assumption is self-serving for you is surely a coincidence, no?

Tell us again -- how is your ignorance going to, in your words, "save [your]self"? How is cutting yourself off from facts going to save you anything except worry?

You're not saving jack-shit. You're plugging your ears, crying "lalalalala", and you want a cookie for it. Sorry, I'm fresh out of cookies. Go begging elsewhere for the cred you so obviously want. Me, I'll keep fighting our rights and freedoms, and if the only thing that earns from you is scorn, so be it. You won't be the first lazy ingrate I've ever met in my life.

I voted trump, but I've never assumed other white people voted trump. People are more complicated than their skin color.

(March 28, 2017 at 6:36 pm)Gearbreak Wrote: I voted trump, but I've never assumed other white people voted trump. People are more complicated than their skin color.

It seems that you still like Trump now, correct?

If so, what exactly is it about him that appeals to you?

(March 28, 2017 at 6:31 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(March 28, 2017 at 6:23 pm)Sterben Wrote:           I do understand what is occurring, it is something that be avoided entirely, only the impact can be soften. It's a problem that occurs to every empire through out every empire. The U.S has grown too big big to keep under control and demonstrate a type of logic that is needed to maintain a empire of this size. A single lion can only hunt so many ostriches, we could scream as loud as you can in the streets. You can go on national television and be on every channel warning people on what is going to happen, but few will listen. Since I know the phases of most every empire, it's human nature that is at fault here. Instead of myself trying to warn people, why would I want to go to these lengths to help people, when these people can't help themselves?

         You must be one hell of a masochist, to want to try to wake people up from this dream state we exist in. I wish you the best of luck on trying to improve things, as for a person who tried a few times with no success in educating people on what is happening. The ship is going down and there is no life boat or aid on it's way to help us. The more intelligent in this type of situation save themselves over others, and I'm saving myself first.

Oooh, well you're clearly too smart for me to continue this conversation ... even though you're the one expressing a preference for ignorance. Then you top it off by making the assumption -- and that's all it is, a fatuous assumption -- that I'm not well-read on history. The fact that that assumption is self-serving for you is surely a coincidence, no?

Tell us again -- how is your ignorance going to, in your words, "save [your]self"? How is cutting yourself off from facts going to save you anything except worry?

You're not saving jack-shit.  You're plugging your ears, crying "lalalalala", and you want a cookie for it. Sorry, I'm fresh out of cookies.  Go begging elsewhere for the cred you so obviously want. Me, I'll keep fighting our rights and freedoms, and if the only thing that earns from you is scorn, so be it. You won't be the first lazy ingrate I've ever met in my life.

          I'm not cutting myself off from facts, I'm very aware of what is going on. There is nothing You or I can do about it! Plus I never said you were not well read in the subject of history, or a part of the population that lacks intelligence. You have been on this board longer then I have, and I always have liked a lot of posts and threads though we disagree on some things. I do keep up the fight in a way, even though I only care about a few things. The freedom of the internet, The relationship with Japan, and my own life. I've told a lot of people about Crypto parties, Tor, freenet, and the proper usage of a VPN. If the internet is at stake, or Japan is not as open with it's exports to the rest of the world, I'll be up in arms, and or if something effects me directly, I will raise my voice.

        You are partially right, I am lazy but I'm not a ingrate. I do use the "lalalaa" system on certain elements of our society. But, I do not care I'm not going to be personally involved in anything that I do not have a passion for.

(March 28, 2017 at 6:52 pm)Sterben Wrote: But, I do not care I'm not going to be personally involved in anything that I do not have a passion for.

That's nice. Perhaps you should consider not scorning people simply for not sharing your apathy?

Just a thought.