(April 29, 2017 at 2:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:

(April 27, 2017 at 9:09 am)Drich Wrote: How can you guys keep asking me the same question yet expect a different answer.

Because we are constantly hoping that you are able to reclaim your moral compass, and give up your immoral religion.

Moral compass? Drich?

(April 18, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Drich Wrote: I have shared many times that a 'christian'/one with the gift of the Holy Spirit can be in direct commune with God. This is a very real thing... 

I swear to my Gwynnies. I am a gnostic atheist by faith alone. I believe Dawkin's scale is not linear but rather circular; i.e. there is essentially no difference between a 0 and a 7. The only difference is in how one tells the story.

Quote:I have shared many times that a 'christian'/one with the gift of the Holy Spirit can be in direct commune with God. This is a very real thing... 

uh huh right ....

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1. Any god who can solve the problem but chooses not too is indeed part of the problem

2. You don't get to call anybody else lazy dirchwit

3. Humans are mostly good

(April 29, 2017 at 2:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Okay, for arguments sake, I'll temporarily concede that the mass starvations are a man made problem. That still would not let your god off the hook for non man made problems that are out of our control. Like the Indonesian tsunami or the Japanese tsunami.

Quote:The Indonesian tsunami of 2004 took 250,000 people of all ages, and your god sits back and lets that many children under 5 die every 1.5 weeks.

How are you seriously talking about this?
1) Does God command people live on the shore line?(no)
2) Has he ever gave warning on living on the shore line? (yes)
3) does God have a contract with anyone on number of years we get to live? (no)
4) Then why you be trifflen on God? for what ignant people do/where they decide to live?
5) if you did not know in real life everyone isn't supposed to go home with a trophy, then you do now.

Quote:Are you stupid or sumthin?
Death is not our end, but our birth into eternity. Only those who have no eternal future see death as an evil or bad thing. So why would I could it against God that one or Everyone dies in this life? Death is your scarry evil measure not mine.

Quote:Ah, so this life is just a place where we wipe our feet for 7 or 8 decades while waiting for the real thing to begin.

decades/ seconds to the 24 hour fruit fly a second is indeed a long period of time. You pretend that decades are huge measures of time, but truly in the scope of eternity decades pass faster than the cosmos can blink. It is just a matter of perspective you fruit fly! We are but a vapor to God here one moment and gone the next. so truly with the measure of eternity before us what does it matter if your vapor last a few more seconds than mine?

Quote: Makes one wonder why we have this life at all? Doesn't make you wonder, of course, I mean it makes someone with a bit if critical thinking skills and rationality wonder.

This life serves one purpose and that is to decide where to spend eternity without knoweledge or influence of the majesty/glory of God known to us. (unbiased heart felt decision without the 'things of God' to sway our decision.

Quote:Yes, when people die before they would need to, it is immoral for humans to let it happen. If their life is shortened by a tsunami, when a god could have prevented it, then that god is immoral.

and if the tsunami stopped an outbreak of some zombie type virus that would wipe out most of the world? This is what sickens me about questions like this.. you have no idea what the future holds nor what impact that loss of life would hold, you just assume everyone who lived would contribute positively to the rest of us. That nothing bad could have ever been stopped with mass destruction like this.

Quote:That you believe that your your god is good by making sure your loan went through and you got your property, yet sits back and lets children die in vast numbers without doing a thing, just shows how your religion has caused you to lose your moral compass.

Quote:I would rather see those children die than live and suffer and then (Because they are indeed muslim) be taught that lazy people like you sat on mountains of food, and the farmers were even PAID NOT grow crops so as to keep the price high, then turn and fight us as ISIS or something worse.

Quote:You have no idea how much money and time I donate.

anyone who has donated time and money can certainly identify others like that. there is an element missing from pretenders. If say you spent the better part of 15 years working (or as common people put it spending time) feeding the poor then the approach you'd take is completely different, and the opportunities you could offer and speak about would manifest in a conversation, that too would also be different. I don't want to poop on what you've done in light of my time spent... but at the same time your no jedi yet.

Most people who pipe up against god are the cup of coffee donators (or worse yet the one who want to but haven't even done that..You know the 'moral giants' who point and poo poo on others for not doing what they themselves wont do. That is why they haven't put the time in to see the evil and greed of man being the true cause of blight and starvation anywhere in the world.

God this Goood that everything is God's fault because I want to put in 60 cents aday.

Quote:I have never claimed that human behavior hasn't made the situation worse.

Human politics and behaivor is the only reason people starve now adays. We have a solid infrastructure.

Quote:That's the thing between us sport I don't see us all as basically 'good' and even though children are innocent by any measure they do not remain children. they quickly (10 to 13) in those areas are use to fight very real and adult conflicts.

Quote:So, it is okay for all of the innocent children to die of starvation, because some of them may end up to be soldiers?

Yes.
This is how I know you have done much or anything... the food distribution network is more important than any one person or any one situation. Trucks, people, ships, support structure in the corners of the world where those child soldiers are being used are far too valuable of a resource to loose, because then everyone in that region is indanger. protecting and maintaining the infrastructure/distrbution network is key. meaning it takes priority over child soldiers. what often happens is a rally point is made and people have to walk in the supplies.

Quote:Too bad a god with the attributes that you believe yours has, would be able, if he was moral, to mitigate the bad situation. Not sure how you think this helps defending your immoral god.  

Hey, moron... who is implementing the bad situation? There is currently one region on the map under going a drought and just the United states surplus is enough to give those people more than what they could produce when things were good! the other 9 places are man made issues

Quote:A god that would act like this, deserves to be fought against by every moral man and woman on the planet.

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Your right. If 'morality' makes you greater than God I think God/God's people should fight against the sinful stain of 'morality.'/quote]

I can tell you, I am more moral than the god that is depicted in the Bible.
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That my friend is call self righteousness.
A righteousness found apart from God often sourced from within one's self or conscience

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(April 29, 2017 at 10:41 pm)Orochi Wrote:

Quote:I have shared many times that a 'christian'/one with the gift of the Holy Spirit can be in direct commune with God. This is a very real thing... 

uh huh right ....

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1. Any god who can solve the problem but chooses not too is indeed part of the problem

2. You don't get to call anybody else lazy dirchwit

3. Humans are mostly good

1.why?

2. kinda did

3. douche...
If you add up the non westerners (the oppsite of the liberal minded snow flakes who want you to have your safe space with a cookie and milk, human rights everyone is equal) the snow flakes are out numbered 2 to one who you count the oppressive governments and regims (China russia North Korea ISIS militant/radical islam)

How is statement 3 not lazy? you didn't even google the crap and nonsense you believe.

So if 2/3 of the planet wants to take away your snow flake rights and suspend free thought and oppress your expression and limit your personal freedoms and God given rights... Are most people "good"?

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(April 29, 2017 at 2:33 pm)Grandizer Wrote:

(April 29, 2017 at 2:22 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Because we are constantly hoping that you are able to reclaim your moral compass, and give up your immoral religion.

Moral compass? Drich?

There is only righteousness.

Man's morality is the reason he gives for the sins (righteousness would forbid) he wishes to keep in his heart.

(April 28, 2017 at 9:26 am)Drich Wrote: I clearly stated that God sometimes takes us out well beyond the hope and scope of help from anyone else, to a place of hoplessness and despare. a place there is no way back from unless He were to save us.

That is what I described here. He takes us to this place because we ask for proof, and assureance of God. what better proof when arrives to save us?

Sounds more like kidnapping than love.  But whose knows what any word means when talking to christians.

(May 1, 2017 at 11:33 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(April 28, 2017 at 9:26 am)Drich Wrote: I clearly stated that God sometimes takes us out well beyond the hope and scope of help from anyone else, to a place of hoplessness and despare. a place there is no way back from unless He were to save us.

That is what I described here. He takes us to this place because we ask for proof, and assureance of God. what better proof when arrives to save us?

Sounds more like kidnapping than love.  But whose knows what any word means when talking to christians.

How so?

Didn't your father train you how to be a man and then test your training?

(May 1, 2017 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: Didn't your father train you how to be a man and then test your training?

No.

My father and I are estranged due to the fact that he was a raging, verbally abusive alcoholic.

Yet according to you and your faith, I should still revere and love him as Job did God who was much worse than my father.

Stop being an ignorant twat-face and realize that your religious faith has blinded you to reason, because that is what you need to hear.

You cannot and will not accept it, under any circumstances, but it does not make it any less true.

(May 1, 2017 at 3:05 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(May 1, 2017 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: Didn't your father train you how to be a man and then test your training?

No.

My father and I are estranged due to the fact that he was a raging, verbally abusive alcoholic.

get in line snow flake. or did you not read the OP?

Quote:Yet according to you and your faith, I should still revere and love him as Job did God who was much worse than my father.

or kinda like I did in the OP over 20+ years and everything in the end worked out better than what I could have imagined???

Quote:Stop being an ignorant twat-face and realize that your religious faith has blinded you to reason, because that is what you need to hear.

Oh. noes!! I've just been fooling myself this whole time... Oh wait a tick.. custom built House- Check, on Land I paid for 20+ years ago -Check, Relationship with my Dad on biblical terms- Check... Am I happy? -Check ++

Maybe it is you who has fooled himself into think that just because you dad beat on you are justified in hating someone forever.

Quote:You cannot and will not accept it, under any circumstances, but it does not make it any less true.

no idea what you are on about here.

Here is a poem about why god is absent some days:

One night I dreamed a dream.
As I was walking along the beach with my Lord.
Across the dark sky flashed scenes from my life.
For each scene, I noticed two sets of footprints in the sand,
One belonging to me and one to my Lord.

After the last scene of my life flashed before me,
I looked back at the footprints in the sand.
I noticed that at many times along the path of my life,
especially at the very lowest and saddest times,
there was only one set of footprints.

This really troubled me, so I asked the Lord about it.
"Lord, you said once I decided to follow you,
You'd walk with me all the way.
But I noticed that during the saddest and most troublesome times of my life,
there was only one set of footprints.
I don't understand why, when I needed You the most, You would leave me."

He whispered, "My precious child, you know it’s just a dream right?
I mean seriously, why would you think your dreams are real?
Ever dream you could fly
Ever jump off a building the next day
Get the fuck outa here dude

(May 1, 2017 at 3:30 pm)Drich Wrote: Maybe it is you who has fooled himself into think that just because you dad beat on you are justified in hating someone forever.

Forgiveness is akin to respect, either of which must be earned rather than merely doled out on lame principle.