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Christian best friend asks me to reconsider
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Christian best friend asks me to reconsider
I had a long breakfast with my christian best friend from high school the other day. I thought we agreed to disagree, but I got this long text of concern today. Its the same plea I've heard all my life, but she made it personal. She was diagnosed bi-polar and schizophrenic, so her experiences of hell felt very real to her. Maybe I should let her believe I got my ticket to heaven for her sake, but that is really hard for me. Here's her text:

Hi Jamie. God's love is deeper than any song lyric. The death of Jesus on the Cross was horrible and brutal. Beyond horrific. The difference between His crucifixion and a horror movie, is that in the end, the horror movie does not have a happy ending. It leaves you even more terrified. BUT with Jesus' death, it only lasted 3days. Then He rose from the dead. Over three hundred people witnessed His resurrection. He was alive. He is the God of joy and peace and love and forgiveness. And He is also righteous and Holy. He is so much bigger than this world and this earthly life. Eternity lasts forever. There is no ending. With the Lord, is your Grandma and Bumpa. Your Mom and Dad, your sissies too. Pastor Bear. All those times of joyous laughter, and purity and love. Being goofy. Dancing around singing in our shower caps. So innocent and sweet. All the lullabies you can sing. Those will all be in Heaven. The love and protection we feel with our families. It's the love of the Lord. Forgiving each other and being forgiven. That's Jesus and His love. Why would anyone ever want to not have any of that. Apart from the Lord we cannot and  would not have any of that. No good times. Just being alone and feeling alone, and guilty and scared forever and ever. All those horror movies become the reality. And one cannot turn it off. There is no ending and relief that's over or will come to an end. I speak as someone with just a hint of what that would be like, and my nightmares and terrors only lasted around 10 or 11 years. Hell is never waking up or having them go away.
Please reexamine what you are believing in. I love you so much. Start praying again and pray hard. Tell God everything you are feeling. Tell Him how hard it is for you to believe. Know that He is still with you. In fact, you are His because you asked Him into your heart when you were 13 or 14. His voice resonated with you because you knew He was telling you the truth. The Holy Spirit written about in the New Testament is the same Spirit of God that is talked about in the Old Testament. We can talk more about Him later. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God distinctly portrayed in three persons. Jamie, similarly you are made up of three persons too. You were created in HD image. Your physical body, your emotions/feelings/mental thoughts, and your spirit. I love you, Jay jay, and Jesus does too. That deep intimacy that you long for can only truly come from Him. No other man can fulfill that. At least, not for long. Anything or anyone else we try for is only counterfeit, and won't last long. It will fade and die like our bodies and the flowers. 
I know this is really long, but there was so much left unspoken. If I didn't care about you, I wouldn't have said anything. BUT I DO.✝ ❤ ? ? ? Good night. His joy comes in the morning.

Sent from my iPhone
I was a born-again christian for many years then I got woke.. and now life is better in so many ways. It's taking me time to see my value and find my voice, but the reward is liberating knowing my path is not dictated or controlled by fear of death and the unknown.  Casting off the shackles of religion is pretty fucking awesome. The beautiful people I've met on this forum have more heart and compassion than any group of people I've been apart of. So back off Jesus and followers, because this bitch is done with Chu.  Shy 
  
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RE: Christian best friend asks me to reconsider
I would just be honest with her.

You cannot sacrifice your integrity and honesty for someone who is, by all technical definition, delusional.

If there is one lesson to learn in life, it is to always be one's self in this world.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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She prefers the company of her special invisible friend.
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(June 9, 2017 at 5:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: She prefers the company of her special invisible friend.

It's her Happy Place.  Tongue
I was a born-again christian for many years then I got woke.. and now life is better in so many ways. It's taking me time to see my value and find my voice, but the reward is liberating knowing my path is not dictated or controlled by fear of death and the unknown.  Casting off the shackles of religion is pretty fucking awesome. The beautiful people I've met on this forum have more heart and compassion than any group of people I've been apart of. So back off Jesus and followers, because this bitch is done with Chu.  Shy 
  
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RE: Christian best friend asks me to reconsider
(June 9, 2017 at 5:04 pm)JamieB Wrote: I had a long breakfast with my christian best friend from high school the other day. I thought we agreed to disagree, but I got this long text of concern today. Its the same plea I've heard all my life, but she made it personal. She was diagnosed bi-polar and schizophrenic, so her experiences of hell felt very real to her. Maybe I should let her believe I got my ticket to heaven for her sake, but that is really hard for me. Here's her text:

Hi Jamie. God's love is deeper than any song lyric. The death of Jesus on the Cross was horrible and brutal. Beyond horrific. The difference between His crucifixion and a horror movie, is that in the end, the horror movie does not have a happy ending. It leaves you even more terrified. BUT with Jesus' death, it only lasted 3days. Then He rose from the dead. Over three hundred people witnessed His resurrection. He was alive. He is the God of joy and peace and love and forgiveness. And He is also righteous and Holy. He is so much bigger than this world and this earthly life. Eternity lasts forever. There is no ending. With the Lord, is your Grandma and Bumpa. Your Mom and Dad, your sissies too. Pastor Bear. All those times of joyous laughter, and purity and love. Being goofy. Dancing around singing in our shower caps. So innocent and sweet. All the lullabies you can sing. Those will all be in Heaven. The love and protection we feel with our families. It's the love of the Lord. Forgiving each other and being forgiven. That's Jesus and His love. Why would anyone ever want to not have any of that. Apart from the Lord we cannot and  would not have any of that. No good times. Just being alone and feeling alone, and guilty and scared forever and ever. All those horror movies become the reality. And one cannot turn it off. There is no ending and relief that's over or will come to an end. I speak as someone with just a hint of what that would be like, and my nightmares and terrors only lasted around 10 or 11 years. Hell is never waking up or having them go away.
Please reexamine what you are believing in. I love you so much. Start praying again and pray hard. Tell God everything you are feeling. Tell Him how hard it is for you to believe. Know that He is still with you. In fact, you are His because you asked Him into your heart when you were 13 or 14. His voice resonated with you because you knew He was telling you the truth. The Holy Spirit written about in the New Testament is the same Spirit of God that is talked about in the Old Testament. We can talk more about Him later. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. One God distinctly portrayed in three persons. Jamie, similarly you are made up of three persons too. You were created in HD image. Your physical body, your emotions/feelings/mental thoughts, and your spirit. I love you, Jay jay, and Jesus does too. That deep intimacy that you long for can only truly come from Him. No other man can fulfill that. At least, not for long. Anything or anyone else we try for is only counterfeit, and won't last long. It will fade and die like our bodies and the flowers. 
I know this is really long, but there was so much left unspoken. If I didn't care about you, I wouldn't have said anything. BUT I DO.✝ ❤ ? ? ? Good night. His joy comes in the morning.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Christian best friend asks me to reconsider
Quote:His joy comes in the morning.

All guys say that.
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RE: Christian best friend asks me to reconsider
As I recall, Scripture assures us your friend is possessed of a demon of sorts.

I'd strongly suggest that following any religious advice from an individual so afflicted would be a grievous error.


Sorry, but I cannot abide your even considering this; by the believers own Bible, this individual cannot lead anyone to Salvation.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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I would agree that you should be honest, you don't want to lie for the rest of your relationship with someone that is a best friend. Most people come around eventually or at least get worn down over the years. For my god mother that took her job too literally I just kept telling her I love her and disagree but eventually I just started changing the subject and now we don't discuss religion at all.
“What screws us up the most in life is the picture in our head of what it's supposed to be.”

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RE: Christian best friend asks me to reconsider
Have you tried rebuking her demon ??
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: Christian best friend asks me to reconsider
I was confronted by fellow church members, brought up to front of the church, and then informed that I needed the demon of homosexuality removed from me.

I honestly cannot remember how I handled the situation.

During certain stressful situations, I tend to have memory blocks.

All I know for certain is that I realized that point in time that religion was bullshit.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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