(June 16, 2017 at 3:16 pm)FFaith Wrote: I agree with Joe Biden, Trump, and Rand Paul that if the government starts showing up at people's homes to confiscate everyone's guns, then maybe it's time to start shooting. Guns are meant to be a defense against tyranny. I don't like the use of violence in this situation against the Republicans though. Yes, the Repubs have a lot of fucked up policy positions and they are messing with people's health care and shitting on gay and trans rights and things like that, but these things can be changed politically, eventually. Now is not the time for violence.


I don't think there's anything wrong with not having sympathy for Scalise. I feel sorry for everyone in a way since I recognize that there is no free will, but when it comes down to it, pretty much every Republican politician is a huge piece of shit. Same goes for the Dems. These are some truly disgusting people, so I can understand people saving their sympathy for those who are more deserving of it. This violence should be condemned though. If a Repub politician is old and happens to die and there was no violence involved, go ahead and celebrate then. No issue with that.

Not this shit again.

Biden even if he said that, link BTW.

Biden even if he said that would still not advocate a no rules free for all. Secondly, even if there were a liberal version of a Tea Party militia guess what, the government still has tanks and jets. They are going to have tanks and jests no mater which fringe party on either side might try to produce, and the government would still be able to destroy it because they have more and bigger weapons. 

But, if you want to go that route, I would say at this current point in history, you'd have more to be afraid of with Trump and the GOP creating a one party fascist state than you would if liberals had a majority power.

Our intel at the top level is not going to allow any revolution regardless. 

What that sicko did on the baseball field has been condemned by all the top of our party, and even I condemn what he did as everyone should. But where was all this condemnation by the GOP when Ted Buttnugget made his veiled threats about Obama? Where was the GOP condemnation about 'LOCK HER UP" and jokes about "2nd Amendment solutions?

I am really sick of this crap that doing things differently as far as gun laws is a call for tyranny. The GOP has been screaming that crap since the 1980s. Australia has one too many mass shootings and they wake up and they actually do something about it. Guess what, Australia is still an open free society.

The crap on the far right is simply sell of paranoia to protect the profits of the gun industry.

(June 16, 2017 at 3:57 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(June 16, 2017 at 3:29 pm)Khemikal Wrote: College educated well-to-do liberals didn;t make Trump pull a Hitler. I'm really not getting what you find surprising in opposition to going full hitler among college educated well-to-do liberals.  They read the reich as a morality play, Our Fuhrer seems to think it was an instructable.

Nice people do and would and -should- wish for the deaths of all the worlds little hitlers.  If they didn't, they really wouldn't be all that nice.  Ask the jews.  

"I hope nothing bad happens to hitler" - said no decent person, ever.

People really seem to know nothing about hitler and how he came to power.

When I saw the Berkeley riots to stop free speech I thought about Hitlers Brownshirts except the liberals wear black

(June 16, 2017 at 4:24 pm)MattB Wrote:

(June 16, 2017 at 3:57 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: People really seem to know nothing about hitler and how he came to power.

When I saw the Berkeley riots to stop free speech I thought about Hitlers Brownshirts except the liberals wear black

First off the rioters were not students, nor did they make up the majority who were PEACEFUL protesters.

Secondly, when we talk about the history of the Nazis and "brown shirts" we are not talking about people who simply show up. Brownshirts were ORGANIZED political gang. So now liberals are a fascist gang?

How about no, fuck you, and bullshit.

Yes we DO know how Hitler came to power.

He sold himself as a savior, and the only one who could save the nation.
He sold hyper nationalism.
He vilified political rivals.
He vilified media unless it praised him. 
He scapegoated multiple groups.

Kinda like what Trump has done for the past 5 years and is still doing today.

"Make Germany Great Again"
"Make America Great Again"
"I will defend the fatherland"
"I will defend the Homeland"
"The Jews are to blame"
"The Mexicans and Muslims are to blame"

Jumping jesus on a pogo stick, there were no riots to stop free speech, lol.  Free speech doesn't mean that you're owed a venue.  Somebody's been mainlining fake news.  Even the agitating militants in that example have a clear case, and that's just the new american normal.  Used to be wingnuts were all like "they're sterlizing us with measles vaccines!" - but now....

Thanks obama.

(June 16, 2017 at 4:24 pm)MattB Wrote:

(June 16, 2017 at 3:57 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: People really seem to know nothing about hitler and how he came to power.

When I saw the Berkeley riots to stop free speech I thought about Hitlers Brownshirts except the liberals wear black

The black shirts would have been Mussolini's fascist paramilitary group. Hitler idolized Mussolini. So, the black that those far left anarchist fascists are wearing who rioted at Berkeley would be fitting.

(June 16, 2017 at 4:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(June 16, 2017 at 3:16 pm)FFaith Wrote: I agree with Joe Biden, Trump, and Rand Paul that if the government starts showing up at people's homes to confiscate everyone's guns, then maybe it's time to start shooting. Guns are meant to be a defense against tyranny. I don't like the use of violence in this situation against the Republicans though. Yes, the Repubs have a lot of fucked up policy positions and they are messing with people's health care and shitting on gay and trans rights and things like that, but these things can be changed politically, eventually. Now is not the time for violence.


I don't think there's anything wrong with not having sympathy for Scalise. I feel sorry for everyone in a way since I recognize that there is no free will, but when it comes down to it, pretty much every Republican politician is a huge piece of shit. Same goes for the Dems. These are some truly disgusting people, so I can understand people saving their sympathy for those who are more deserving of it. This violence should be condemned though. If a Repub politician is old and happens to die and there was no violence involved, go ahead and celebrate then. No issue with that.

Not this shit again.

Biden even if he said that, link BTW.

Biden even if he said that would still not advocate a no rules free for all. Secondly, even if there were a liberal version of a Tea Party militia guess what, the government still has tanks and jets. They are going to have tanks and jests no mater which fringe party on either side might try to produce, and the government would still be able to destroy it because they have more and bigger weapons. 

But, if you want to go that route, I would say at this current point in history, you'd have more to be afraid of with Trump and the GOP creating a one party fascist state than you would if liberals had a majority power.

Our intel at the top level is not going to allow any revolution regardless. 

What that sicko did on the baseball field has been condemned by all the top of our party, and even I condemn what he did as everyone should. But where was all this condemnation by the GOP when Ted Buttnugget made his veiled threats about Obama? Where was the GOP condemnation about 'LOCK HER UP" and jokes about "2nd Amendment solutions?

I am really sick of this crap that doing things differently as far as gun laws is a call for tyranny. The GOP has been screaming that crap since the 1980s. Australia has one too many mass shootings and they wake up and they actually do something about it. Guess what, Australia is still an open free society.

The crap on the far right is simply sell of paranoia to protect the profits of the gun industry.

I'm not arguing that the people would win, just that they could do some damage. I just can't agree with stripping people of their right to defend themselves to try and stop what, 100 deaths per year at first maybe? Politicians are mostly trying to take away rifles right now, not handguns, and rifles account for less than 300 deaths per year in the US. You get rid of all of them and murder by guns will drop by maybe 100 deaths per year. Gun violence is on the decline as is. Trying to prevent people on the terrorist watch list from getting guns is a dumb idea too. Even suspected terrorists have the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, and stopping them from getting guns just tips them off and lets them know that they are under investigation, which you obviously don't want to do.

People militantly opposed to inequality are the new bad guys, in the land where all men were created equal.  

(June 16, 2017 at 3:29 pm)Khemikal Wrote: College educated well-to-do liberals didn;t make Trump pull a Hitler. I'm really not getting what you find surprising in opposition to going full hitler among college educated well-to-do liberals. They read the reich as a morality play, Our Fuhrer seems to think it was an instructable.

Nice people do and would and -should- wish for the deaths of all the worlds little hitlers. If they didn't, they really wouldn't be all that nice. Ask the jews.

"I hope nothing bad happens to hitler" - said no decent person, ever.

When President Trump begins to imprison 6 million Jews and gassing them to death then I'll start calling him another Hitler. Since he's not doing that he's not Hitler.

There was a time when hitler hadn't accomplished that either, simpleton.  I doubt that you, personally, would lift a finger if he rounded mexicans up into the concentration camps he's already called for.  You'd probably call a mulligan on the whole thing so long as he didn't...you know, gas someone.  

That, at least, brings comedy to this.  The problem with hitler, to you..and obviously so, wasn't that he was a racist twatwaffle who peddled a brand of radical nationalism, it was that he gassed them jews.  Until trump does that, he;s just swell in your book.

Well, I have higher standards. No one forced you to defend the trumpster against accurate comparisons between his august orange self and hitler, like a common nazi sympathizer. Yet another example of why some liberals are getting heated, in response to this sort of shit. They don't know that you and people like you are full of shit, like I do. They take you seriously, lol.

(June 16, 2017 at 5:07 pm)Khemikal Wrote: There was a time when hitler hadn't accomplished that either, simpleton.  I doubt that you, personally, would lift a finger if he rounded mexicans up into the concentration camps he's already called for.  You'd probably call a mulligan on the whole thing so long as he didn't...you know, gas someone.  

That, at least, brings comedy to this.  The problem with hitler, to you..and obviously so, wasn't that he was a racist twatwaffle who peddled a brand of radical nationalism, it was that he gassed them jews.  Until trump does that, he;s just swell in your book.

Well, I have higher standards. No one forced you to defend the trumpster against accurate comparisons between his august orange self and hitler, like a common nazi sympathizer. Yet another example of why some liberals are getting heated, in response to this sort of shit. They don't know that you and people like you are full of shit, like I do. They take you seriously, lol.

Lol, yourself. Other than few other of your dumbass conspiracy theorist buddies here, who else can take your goof ass seriously. When Trump shuts down free elections, outlaws all other political parties, gasses 6 million Jews in addition to killing scores of others, begins a policy of lebensraum and making war with this nation's neighbors, then I'll say there's a comparison. Otherwise you're​ full of shit with your goof ass conspiracy theories.