(August 15, 2017 at 2:08 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Just being familiar with the Bible doesn't get you anywhere except for a small bit of knowledge anyone can glean from the scriptures. God knew at 7 you were not ready to understand and you were probably not ready when you gave up. If I remember correctly you said you were young when you decided God wasn't real. I have 3 years on you and I find God and his word essential for my life day by day. Maybe one day God will come calling again, I hope you are listening then.

Godscreated, I will never be ready to worship a god that apparently would rather torture "sinners" for eternity than peacefully coexist with them or simply cause them to pass into nothingness.

The fact that you consider the word of such a god "essential for [your] life day by day" makes you into someone whom I most definitely do not want to emulate.  Hopefully one day you will gain sufficient moral courage to cast your vile faith away, grow the fuck up, and claim your humanity.

(August 15, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(August 15, 2017 at 2:08 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Just being familiar with the Bible doesn't get you anywhere except for a small bit of knowledge anyone can glean from the scriptures. God knew at 7 you were not ready to understand and you were probably not ready when you gave up. If I remember correctly you said you were young when you decided God wasn't real. I have 3 years on you and I find God and his word essential for my life day by day. Maybe one day God will come calling again, I hope you are listening then.

Godscreated, I will never be ready to worship a god that apparently would rather torture "sinners" for eternity than peacefully coexist with them or simply cause them to pass into nothingness.

The fact that you consider the word of such a god "essential for [your] life day by day" makes you into someone whom I most definitely do not want to emulate.  Hopefully one day you will gain sufficient moral courage to cast your vile faith away, grow the fuck up, and claim your humanity.

 By claiming God as my savior I have my humanity. Better that you were to emulate Christ, I'm unworthy of such. That of coarse would take a commitment to Him.

GC

(August 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm)Godscreated Wrote: By claiming God as my savior I have my humanity. Better that you were to emulate Christ, I'm unworthy of such. That of coarse would take a commitment to Him.

No, by accepting that bullshit salvation you have declared moral bankruptcy.

I pay my own debts, thankyouverymuch.

(August 15, 2017 at 3:36 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(August 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm)Godscreated Wrote: By claiming God as my savior I have my humanity. Better that you were to emulate Christ, I'm unworthy of such. That of coarse would take a commitment to Him.

No, by accepting that bullshit salvation you have declared moral bankruptcy.

I pay my own debts, thankyouverymuch.

 You can't pay your sin debt to God yourself, that payment comes through Christ, sorry there's no getting around that one. By the way I was morally bankrupt before I was saved.

GC

Is it a sin to not believe in the Salvific power of Jesus ?

(August 16, 2017 at 1:10 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(August 15, 2017 at 3:36 pm)Astreja Wrote: No, by accepting that bullshit salvation you have declared moral bankruptcy.

I pay my own debts, thankyouverymuch.

 You can't pay your sin debt to God yourself, that payment comes through Christ, sorry there's no getting around that one. By the way I was morally bankrupt before I was saved.

GC

There is no such thing as sin.  What did you do, trade morally bankrupt for intellectually bankrupt?

(August 16, 2017 at 1:10 am)Godscreated Wrote: You can't pay your sin debt to God yourself, that payment comes through Christ, sorry there's no getting around that one. By the way I was morally bankrupt before I was saved.

That's ridiculous!  If I can't pay it, how could I have incurred such a debt in the first place?  I couldn't possibly have inherited it, least of all from two imaginary humanoids who conversed with a Talking Snake™.

(By the way, can you get me my very own Talking Snake™?  No other believers have managed to pull it off, but that doesn't keep me from asking.)

How does it feel to be worshipping a cosmic loan shark, Godscreated?  Sucks to be you.

(August 16, 2017 at 11:17 am)Astreja Wrote:

(August 16, 2017 at 1:10 am)Godscreated Wrote: You can't pay your sin debt to God yourself, that payment comes through Christ, sorry there's no getting around that one. By the way I was morally bankrupt before I was saved.

That's ridiculous!  If I can't pay it, how could I have incurred such a debt in the first place?  I couldn't possibly have inherited it, least of all from two imaginary humanoids who conversed with a Talking Snake™.

(By the way, can you get me my very own Talking Snake™?  No other believers have managed to pull it off, but that doesn't keep me from asking.)

How does it feel to be worshipping a cosmic loan shark, Godscreated?  Sucks to be you.

 You can't do enough to pay for your sins incurred in this life, it is an impossibility. Christ has already paid for them if you want them payed for and you know what you need to do.

GC

(August 16, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You can't do enough to pay for your sins incurred in this life, it is an impossibility. Christ has already paid for them if you want them payed for and you know what you need to do.

If I can't pay it off myself, the debt is illegitimate and can simply be ignored.  I reject salvation unconditionally.

The idea that a god-man of dubious historicity is the only way to prevent eternal torture by a tyrannical butt-hurt bastard of a deity is... amusing.  Your way of thinking is so out of touch with reality and morality that I can't even feel sorry for you.

(August 16, 2017 at 3:36 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(August 16, 2017 at 3:31 pm)Godscreated Wrote: You can't do enough to pay for your sins incurred in this life, it is an impossibility. Christ has already paid for them if you want them payed for and you know what you need to do.

If I can't pay it off myself, the debt is illegitimate and can simply be ignored.  I reject salvation unconditionally.

The idea that a god-man of dubious historicity is the only way to prevent eternal torture by a tyrannical butt-hurt bastard of a deity is... amusing.  Your way of thinking is so out of touch with reality and morality that I can't even feel sorry for you.

(bolding mine)

But note, rejecting salvation is a sin. And Jesus died for your sins.

You're still covered.

Praise Jesus, and I think we just proved the concept of Universal Salvation.