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Hurricane Harvey
RE: Hurricane Harvey
(August 31, 2017 at 2:11 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 31, 2017 at 1:21 pm)Hammy Wrote: And U2 frontman, Bono, wasn't impressed.

He's just sore he ain't from Texas.

Not really but the rest of Ireland sure is, sanctimonious little prickola.
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(August 31, 2017 at 3:12 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(August 31, 2017 at 2:56 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yeah, like many other places. But inland it's not so common. Missouri has very little beachfront.

If we let the Kochs and Exxon have their way it will be.

I'm 682 feet above sea level.
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Hurricane Harvey, brought to you by a century of climate change deniers, Orange Julius Caesar, Chinese sweat shop labor, because baseball caps need a tiny handed salesperson, and WWE Smackdown, where hurricanes are "exciting" and "look at the turnout". 

Hurricane Harvey, brought to you by WWE Smackdown, where our motto is, "Who gives a fuck if Mexico offered help along with 4 Houston Mosques." 

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Tropical Storm Irma is powering up into a strong hurricane right now. It might hit the Caribbean and/or go into the Gulf, but hard to tell since it's about a week out.
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(August 31, 2017 at 5:09 pm)Puke Skywalker Wrote: Tropical Storm Irma is powering up into a strong hurricane right now.  It might hit the Caribbean and/or go into the Gulf, but hard to tell since it's about a week out.

I don't want it to hit any land, regardless of nation, but I would be lying to say if it ended up hitting Texas the irony would be glaring about how GOP voters shit on outsiders then beg for help.
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(August 31, 2017 at 10:37 am)Clueless Morgan Wrote:
(August 30, 2017 at 10:37 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If a house was properly designed it should be possible to easily wrap and seal the exterior to keep out flood waters.  

Depending on the site and the type of house construction in might be possible to wrap and seal an existing house if you had enough time and the proper materials.

What, like this?

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(August 30, 2017 at 11:21 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Do houses get crushed from water pressure in floods?   If you could seal the exterior would the house suffer any damage?

YES.



People underestimate the power of water.

Think of it this way: If you're inside a car that's surrounded by water up to the windows while the interior of the car is (relatively) dry, you'll have a hell of a time pushing the door open to escape because of the pressure differential between the interior and exterior of the car door.  BUT if you allow the car interior to flood, you equalize the pressure on both sides of the door and you'll be able to open the door to get out.  And that's not even talking about whether the car has been physically picked up by the floodwaters and washed away while you're trying to escape.

A house completely sealed off from flood water intrusion would have a similar principle going on: completely sealing it off from water intrusion means the pressure exerted by the water outside can build up until the structural components holding the house to its foundation fail and the house can be washed away.  If water is allowed in it can reduce the pressure on those structural components and reduce the risk of the house being completely lost.  The pressures we're talking about, though, have a lot to do with how strong a current there is and that can vary.  Houses nearer to rivers, creeks, aquaducts, spillways and the like are at a higher risk than those further away where the currents would be weaker.

(August 30, 2017 at 11:39 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Why are dams so sturdy ??

Same principle.

Remember, though, that dams are specifically engineered to resist the hydrostatic pressure of the water they are holding in their reservoirs.  Houses aren't built like that.  Houses are engineered with static loads in mind and where dynamic loads are considered it's usually wind and earthquakes that drive the design load, not water.  I have never heard of a developer who built a neighborhood where they engineered all the houses to resist being torn from their foundations by floodwaters.

(August 31, 2017 at 1:00 am)J a c k Wrote: When I lived in Southern Florida, we all had stuff ready to seal everything up before going to a shelter. That comment isn't so off base. It's a thing.

It's a thing, but retrofitting a house to be flood-proof is difficult and expensive.  It's much easier to board up a house to prevent wind/debris damage than it is to prevent 3+ feet of water flooding you out.

Large wooden sailing ships were able to withstand the stresses of storms at sea without too many ill effects so why can't houses in known flood areas withstand flood waters? Maybe it's because no one has ever built houses with that problem in mind?
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