How many times do I have to say that I was there six million years ago? I know precisely what happened and how, because I saw it.

And they still don't believe you but rather believe anonymous writer of "Genesis". I mean WTF!

(September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  The problem you have begins by believing I'm delusional and the next part of the problem you have is believing I'm trying to sale you something. I was given the gift of salvation through grace and it's not for sale, gifts are not bought they are given through love and all i'm trying to do is show people that God loves them despite what they want to believe.
I gave you a long response in another thread and you chose not to respond and that's fine, but there was one question I asked you that I was hoping to get an answer to and I believe that question is why you did not respond.

GC

No, you've CONVINCED us that you're delusional.  So, until we see evidence to the contrary.  All you are showing is that, for some reason, people grow into adulthood still "believing makes it so".

GC has a strange way of showing gods love. Maybe he should leave it to people better equipped?

He seems to be cheifly consumed with arguing that he isn;t crazy for seeing ghosts, but I don;t think that many people care all that much whether or not he sees ghosts. They wonder why seeing ghosts made him such a nasty person.

Particularly if it's a love ghost he's been seeing?

The question isn't really specific to GC's delusions, it can be asked of a large swath of christendom. How is it that the Prince of Peace somehow leads to their threats and bigotries and inanity? How does deference to the lord of the cosmos and final, righteous, arbitrator of morality somehow lead directly and necessarily to predictable moral failure?

(September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I haven't contradicted myself it's your confused brain that's the problem. Scientist go into the lab and try a controlled experiment and then claim it's evolution. Evolution, as I stated earlier has to be without exception a natural uncontrolled action outside any lab, other wise it's a scientist trying to play a god.

You really have no fucking clue how controls work in science do you?

(September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Evolution has never been observed in nature, period , and a statement that it has would be a lie.

Bullshit! You're a liar and a fraud.

I would highly recommend you read this link, especially given your propensity to misrepresent the very misconceptions listed as scientific facts.

If you're really interested in truth, as you so vociferously claim, perhaps you can simply type "evolution observed in nature" into google (or click here as I've done it for you) and get your ignorant self educated

(September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: The problem you have begins by believing I'm delusional and the next part of the problem you have is believing I'm trying to sale you something. I was given the gift of salvation through grace and it's not for sale, gifts are not bought they are given through love and all i'm trying to do is show people that God loves them despite what they want to believe.
I gave you a long response in another thread and you chose not to respond and that's fine, but there was one question I asked you that I was hoping to get an answer to and I believe that question is why you did not respond.

Yes, GC, you are quite deluded. You believe a fairy tale as truth.

Yes, GC, you're making a sales pitch whether you recognize it or not.

That one question you wanted an answer to... Why don't you restate it here, or at least link me to the post. I must have missed it, especially if it was in one of you walls of text. After all, it's hard to sort through your drivel, especially when you speak as if English is a second language.

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(September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: you were not there six million years ago and by that alone can't make any real testament.

You were not there when your gawd allegedly created the earth and by that alone can't make any real testament.

(September 14, 2017 at 3:36 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I haven't contradicted myself it's your confused brain that's the problem. Scientist go into the lab and try a controlled experiment and then claim it's evolution. Evolution, as I stated earlier has to be without exception a natural uncontrolled action outside any lab, other wise it's a scientist trying to play a god.

So you are projecting by saying that I'm confused while in your confusion you fail to explain why you constantly put Jesus and evolution in the same context and yet claim that evolution never happened.

I've never associated Jesus Christ the creator with evolution, you are flat out lying or you are confused, take your choice but one of the two are true and possibly both.

(September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Evolution has never been observed in nature, period , and a statement that it has would be a lie.

Oh so you're on a holy mission of lying for Jesus. Too bad for you that your lies are are easily disproved since evolution is observed in nature all the time. Like evolution of language: Spanish, Italian, French, and Portuguese all evolved from Latin. Each of these newer tongues emerged via a slow accumulation of their own unique lingo, occasionally acquiring new slang, abbreviations, or terms adopted from other sources (these are analogous to genetic mutations, BTW). Thus, the original Latin diverged into new dialects and eventually distinct forms of gibberish such that the new Romans could no longer effectively communicate with either Parisians or Spaniards. Take that novel "Don Quixote" which is old enough that in its original form, it isn't yet Spanish, but it isn't quite Latin anymore either; it is an intermediate form.[/quote]

 Evolution and Jesus Christ have nothing to do with each other, what's the matter can't you read. 
 Give me one instance where evolution was ever observed.
 That's about as ridiculous a statement on evolution as anyone could produce, but coming from you I'm not surprised.
 Grow up.

GC

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(September 14, 2017 at 12:12 am)Astreja Wrote:

(September 13, 2017 at 9:41 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I do posses a truth that all non-believers have rejected...

There is no truth in you worth possessing.  Perhaps someday reality will give you the kick in the pants that you so desperately need, and you'll grow up and stop believing in stupid things.  I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen, though.

You're smart not to, you would meet your creator and judge sooner than you might have had to. What I posses is a gift that couldn't have come in any other manner. A gift you do not have and thus can not understand.

GC

I hope you kept the receipt.

I think that you mean to ask whether or not speciation has been observed, ofc.... it has been.  Here are nine examples, more than you requested, limited just to plants.  Enjoy.

Quote:5.1.1.1 Evening Primrose (Oenothera gigas)
While studying the genetics of the evening primrose, Oenothera lamarckiana, de Vries (1905) found an unusual variant among his plants. O. lamarckiana has a chromosome number of 2N = 14. The variant had a chromosome number of 2N = 28. He found that he was unable to breed this variant with O. lamarckiana. He named this new species O. gigas.
5.1.1.2 Kew Primrose (Primula kewensis)
Digby (1912) crossed the primrose species Primula verticillata and P. floribunda to produce a sterile hybrid. Polyploidization occurred in a few of these plants to produce fertile offspring. The new species was named P. kewensis. Newton and Pellew (1929) note that spontaneous hybrids of P. verticillata and P. floribunda set tetraploid seed on at least three occasions. These happened in 1905, 1923 and 1926.
5.1.1.3 Tragopogon
Owenby (1950) demonstrated that two species in this genus were produced by polyploidization from hybrids. He showed that Tragopogon miscellus found in a colony in Moscow, Idaho was produced by hybridization of T. dubius and T. pratensis. He also showed that T. mirus found in a colony near Pullman, Washington was produced by hybridization of T. dubius and T. porrifolius. Evidence from chloroplast DNA suggests that T. mirus has originated independently by hybridization in eastern Washington and western Idaho at least three times (Soltis and Soltis 1989). The same study also shows multiple origins for T. micellus.
5.1.1.4 Raphanobrassica
The Russian cytologist Karpchenko (1927, 1928) crossed the radish, Raphanus sativus, with the cabbage, Brassica oleracea. Despite the fact that the plants were in different genera, he got a sterile hybrid. Some unreduced gametes were formed in the hybrids. This allowed for the production of seed. Plants grown from the seeds were interfertile with each other. They were not interfertile with either parental species. Unfortunately the new plant (genus Raphanobrassica) had the foliage of a radish and the root of a cabbage.
5.1.1.5 Hemp Nettle (Galeopsis tetrahit)
A species of hemp nettle, Galeopsis tetrahit, was hypothesized to be the result of a natural hybridization of two other species, G. pubescens and G. speciosa (Muntzing 1932). The two species were crossed. The hybrids matched G. tetrahit in both visible features and chromosome morphology.
5.1.1.6 Madia citrigracilis
Along similar lines, Clausen et al. (1945) hypothesized that Madia citrigracilis was a hexaploid hybrid of M. gracilis and M. citriodora As evidence they noted that the species have gametic chromosome numbers of n = 24, 16 and 8 respectively. Crossing M. gracilis and M. citriodora resulted in a highly sterile triploid with n = 24. The chromosomes formed almost no bivalents during meiosis. Artificially doubling the chromosome number using colchecine produced a hexaploid hybrid which closely resembled M. citrigracilis and was fertile.
5.1.1.7 Brassica
Frandsen (1943, 1947) was able to do this same sort of recreation of species in the genus Brassica (cabbage, etc.). His experiments showed that B. carinata (n = 17) may be recreated by hybridizing B. nigra (n = 8) and B. oleracea, B. juncea (n = 18) may be recreated by hybridizing B. nigra and B. campestris (n = 10), and B. napus (n = 19) may be recreated by hybridizing B. oleracea and B. campestris.
5.1.1.8 Maidenhair Fern (Adiantum pedatum)
Rabe and Haufler (1992) found a naturally occurring diploid sporophyte of maidenhair fern which produced unreduced (2N) spores. These spores resulted from a failure of the paired chromosomes to dissociate during the first division of meiosis. The spores germinated normally and grew into diploid gametophytes. These did not appear to produce antheridia. Nonetheless, a subsequent generation of tetraploid sporophytes was produced. When grown in the lab, the tetraploid sporophytes appear to be less vigorous than the normal diploid sporophytes. The 4N individuals were found near Baldwin City, Kansas.
5.1.1.9 Woodsia Fern (Woodsia abbeae)
Woodsia abbeae was described as a hybrid of W. cathcariana and W. ilvensis (Butters 1941). Plants of this hybrid normally produce abortive sporangia containing inviable spores. In 1944 Butters found a W. abbeae plant near Grand Portage, Minn. that had one fertile frond (Butters and Tryon 1948). The apical portion of this frond had fertile sporangia. Spores from this frond germinated and grew into prothallia. About six months after germination sporophytes were produced. They survived for about one year. Based on cytological evidence, Butters and Tryon concluded that the frond that produced the viable spores had gone tetraploid. They made no statement as to whether the sporophytes grown produced viable spores..  

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html

The rest opf that page is a wealth of information that, as a committed creatard, you will not be familiar with...but everytime you huff and puff like you did above you make a liar of yourself, of christ, and you make a joke of your one true faith.

Gratz.

But they're still plants; they didn't turn into elephants, so czech mayt evillusion.

Just as GC is very obviously still an ape.