(September 21, 2017 at 5:59 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Getting rid of that regime with military actions would be a victory in name only. The human tragedy that would follow would be on a scale rarely seen in history.

In a way, that would be too much victory.

It will not happen. China will not allow it, and the fact is that they can, will, and indeed have fought to keep their buffer state. Given that, we will not launch a war, Trump's bluster notwithstanding. He's a businessman and a deal-maker. Let's see him back that up with a deal. A shooting war will be a loss for everyone involved

Even though they want the buffer state I think regardless, even China's fed up with the Kim regime. Could be that China may even be looking to undermine Kim from within NOKO and replacing it with a puppet regime that they could keep on a much shorter leash. China has financial interests through trade with the U.S. and others to allow Kim to put it in jeopardy.

(September 21, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(September 21, 2017 at 1:26 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Because they are (basically) Chinese and not dumb.  Besides, in Oriental culture, people actually bow to each other.  Can you imagine Trump bowing to someone?

Putin.

Bowing? No way. Bending over to? Yes.

Quote:Shit. China stopping investments isn't nothing.

Too bad Thumb and I pointed out that had dick all to do with Trump

Quote:You can't complain too much about trump anyway

. Yes yes i can . Because I have a comptent leader . And am lead by sane government .

Quote:It's harder to get into your country legally than it is to live here illegally.

And yet we managed to open our doors to thousands of refugees . And manage to maintain decent compassionate immigration .Without isolationist xenophobic bullshit.

(September 21, 2017 at 8:18 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(September 21, 2017 at 5:59 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Getting rid of that regime with military actions would be a victory in name only. The human tragedy that would follow would be on a scale rarely seen in history.

In a way, that would be too much victory.

It will not happen. China will not allow it, and the fact is that they can, will, and indeed have fought to keep their buffer state. Given that, we will not launch a war, Trump's bluster notwithstanding. He's a businessman and a deal-maker. Let's see him back that up with a deal. A shooting war will be a loss for everyone involved

Even though they want the buffer state I think regardless, even China's fed up with the Kim regime. Could be that China may even be looking to undermine Kim from within NOKO and replacing it with a puppet regime that they could keep on a much shorter leash. China has financial interests through trade with the U.S. and others to allow Kim to put it in jeopardy.

I agree that Beijing is tired of the bullshit too. I don't agree that it is a matter of any action by Trump, which was the crux of my disagreement. I think one reason China is so irritated with NK is that the NK diplomat tasked with handling Chinese relations was executed a couple of years ago, and then the murder last year by nerve gas of another of their NK contacts has them understanding that their own plans may be running aground. Trump, Obama, Bush, that doesn't matter.

I think their plans for puppeteering took an arrow to the knee, and as a result the Chinese are withdrawing support -- they are trying to remind Un how much he needs them.

(September 21, 2017 at 1:26 pm)Jehanne Wrote:

(September 21, 2017 at 1:22 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: I'm surprised that the North Koreans don't use language similar to what the Philippines' President uses.

Because they are (basically) Chinese and not dumb.  Besides, in Oriental culture, people actually bow to each other.  Can you imagine Trump bowing to someone?

Both the Chinese and the Korean bow politely to you and ask you to cut out your own tongue to address their respective grievances. If that is not convenient for you to do they will humbly beg to do it for you.

Quote:I wouldn't say that. He's very blunt and very straight forward.

Stop it.  He talks like a 12 year old bully on recess.

(September 21, 2017 at 8:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:I wouldn't say that. He's very blunt and very straight forward.

Stop it.  He talks like a 12 year old bully on recess.

Oh come now 12 year olds are far more articulate .

(September 21, 2017 at 1:09 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Yes, she's hot, isn't she:

No. She looks like a piece of plastic, slathered in paint. If I owned a mannequin looking like that, I'd throw it in the dumpster and hire, you know, a real human being.

(September 21, 2017 at 8:57 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

(September 21, 2017 at 8:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Stop it.  He talks like a 12 year old bully on recess.

Oh come now 12 year olds are far more articulate .

Liberals hate honest and direct conversation. It hurts their heart.

Fuck you.







Yeah, he'd like to punch him in the face but he hasn't got the fucking guts.  Asshole pussy.