(September 26, 2017 at 3:10 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(September 25, 2017 at 5:36 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Pointing out the failings of an "all loving" deity does not make anyone heartless.

I feel for the families and the victims, as much as anyone else.

But we have to wonder why a god would let this happen and why his followers proclaim "miracles" when someone is pulled from the rubble but are silent on things like this?

Or why, as Min pointed out, they often justify it with, "mysterious ways", "his mind is unfathomable to us", or any one of a dozen or more empty phrases.

I also keep hearing that natural disasters are punishment.  Then why do the innocent, the believers suffer?

Wellington, where I currently live, is considered one of the most atheist capital cities in the world, and is also on a number of seismic faults.  But, instead of punishing the atheists, using the above statements, he practically destroyed a city named after his son, "Christchurch", and destroyed a cathedral for which the city was famous.

 Min couldn't care less about the family who suffered during this natural disaster,that was just that. Christians who claim God causes a disaster that takes anyone's life are making assumption based on their lack of understanding God, most of that stuff comes from their own desires, unfortunately. 
God being omnipresent means He has a knowledge that comes from being there and knowing what He wants in His plans.

GC

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(September 25, 2017 at 5:25 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Or your pet god is, for allowing it to happen. Or equally, not preventing it. Either way, what a tiny, weak, pathetic god you have. I could crush it beneath my shoe.

What do you expect God to do, save everyone from everything so they will live forever, if He did that this world would be overpopulated. God says one should fear the One who can separate the marrow from the bone and spirit from the body.

GC

He should at least save "believers" in a fucking church, though.  Otherwise what's the point?


Oh right.  There is no point to your absurd devotion to primitive superstition.

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Here's a little help for you.  The fucking pope is blaming the "devil" for Mexico's problems.

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/why-did...ng-mexico/

Quote:Why did Pope Francis say the ‘Devil is punishing Mexico’?

The pope is as big a fuckhead as you, G-C.

In this thread, Yahweh can create an entire Universe, but can't keep a little hurricane out in the middle of the Atlantic until it dissipates.

And apparently he enjoys wiping out whole families during one of those stupid-assed baptism ceremonies.  I guess "god" was saying, "here, have some more water!"

(September 23, 2017 at 10:19 pm)emjay Wrote: It's curious how theists would rationalise something like that... but I guess if they were alive to do the rationalising they always would and it would come down to this: "God nearly killed me, but didn't. Praise the Lord!"

When Yahweh was going to kill Moses Moses' wife chopped of their son's foreskin with a rock and saved Moses.  So always keep a rock handy for chopping off foreskins.
 Exodus 4:20-26 (NLT) = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NLT

(September 27, 2017 at 12:13 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(September 23, 2017 at 10:19 pm)emjay Wrote: It's curious how theists would rationalise something like that... but I guess if they were alive to do the rationalising they always would and it would come down to this: "God nearly killed me, but didn't. Praise the Lord!"

When Yahweh was going to kill Moses Moses' wife chopped of their son's foreskin with a rock and saved Moses.  So always keep a rock handy for chopping off foreskins.
 Exodus 4:20-26 (NLT) = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NLT

Seems legit

(September 27, 2017 at 12:13 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(September 23, 2017 at 10:19 pm)emjay Wrote: It's curious how theists would rationalise something like that... but I guess if they were alive to do the rationalising they always would and it would come down to this: "God nearly killed me, but didn't. Praise the Lord!"

When Yahweh was going to kill Moses Moses' wife chopped of their son's foreskin with a rock and saved Moses.  So always keep a rock handy for chopping off foreskins.
 Exodus 4:20-26 (NLT) = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NLT

Okay... thanks for that random interlude

(September 27, 2017 at 12:32 am)KevinM1 Wrote:

(September 27, 2017 at 12:13 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: When Yahweh was going to kill Moses Moses' wife chopped of their son's foreskin with a rock and saved Moses.  So always keep a rock handy for chopping off foreskins.
 Exodus 4:20-26 (NLT) = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=NLT

Seems legit

(September 26, 2017 at 3:10 pm)Godscreated Wrote: ...What do you expect God to do, save everyone from everything so they will live forever,... 

Now describe heaven.

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(September 26, 2017 at 9:25 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: In this thread, Yahweh can create an entire Universe, but can't keep a little hurricane out in the middle of the Atlantic until it dissipates.

Um, that's really not a good idea.

I'll take your word for it.