(September 26, 2017 at 3:16 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote:

(September 26, 2017 at 2:05 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: It's crap like this that is laughable.  Holy can't be around unholy.  Why? Because.

If you must know, it's because the All Powerful Antonym so decrees it. You can read all about His plan for us in The Holy Thesaurus.

You forgot to add "Batman!" at the end.

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(September 26, 2017 at 4:13 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(September 26, 2017 at 4:05 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Lol nope equal

I imagine if a theist had come in here and started a thread saying he hated all atheists and accusing atheists of child abuse for conveying atheism to their children and calling all of you "fucked up in the head", it would have been met with quite a bit more outrage....

False equivalency.
He has a point about indoctrination being child abuse.  Teaching kids to have an open mind is in no way the same.

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(September 27, 2017 at 7:10 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(September 13, 2017 at 9:00 pm)Astonished Wrote: So...look, I hate religious folk, that's no secret, and it's not that I want them to get run over by a bus, but...I'd rather see that than see them indoctrinate one more child. The bible is already obscene enough as it is and anyone reading it straight to a child should be institutionalized, but to actually try (and fail) to turn it into a presentable children's book is...is there a word for worse than obscene?

The irony of this thread is that the most heinous acts of indoctrination, rape and ultimately murder perpetrated by a religious figure in the last 40 years (on American citizens at least) was an atheist, killing over 900 people, children included.

So please OP get off your atheist high horse.

Babble babble

(September 27, 2017 at 7:54 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: False equivalency.
He has a point about indoctrination being child abuse.  Teaching kids to have an open mind is in no way the same.

Teaching kids to have an open mind is not what atheism does.

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(September 27, 2017 at 7:54 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(September 27, 2017 at 7:10 am)Huggy74 Wrote: The irony of this thread is that the most heinous acts of indoctrination, rape and ultimately murder perpetrated by a religious figure in the last 40 years (on American citizens at least) was an atheist, killing over 900 people, children included.

So please OP get off your atheist high horse.

Babble babble

Your indifference to an atheist committing atrocious acts is noted. You now have no leg to stand on when it comes issues of morality.

(September 26, 2017 at 3:38 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: CL, of course there is a double standard. Understandably.  We are Christians posting on a forum  tailored  mostly to atheists. Even still, people like Astonished...i cannot understand why he isn't universally condemned by theists and atheists alike.

And here we have a case of the old dirty tarnished & blackened pot calling the almost new slightly dirty yet still silver kettle black.

Don't worry Wooters I still haven't forgotten the whiny bitch arse pm you sent me when you put me on ignore. I know your MO is to be that five year old kid who swipes the ball and runs crying to mammy when the other kids won't wear you arbitrarily inventing rules during the game, just because he's not winning.

(September 27, 2017 at 8:02 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(September 27, 2017 at 7:54 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: False equivalency.
He has a point about indoctrination being child abuse.  Teaching kids to have an open mind is in no way the same.

Teaching kids to have an open mind is not what atheism does.

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(September 27, 2017 at 7:54 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: Babble babble

Your indifference to an atheist committing atrocious acts is noted.

And your indifference to reality has been noted.  BTW, please inform us...what does atheism teach?

(September 27, 2017 at 8:07 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(September 27, 2017 at 8:02 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Teaching kids to have an open mind is not what atheism does.

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Your indifference to an atheist committing atrocious acts is noted.

And your indifference to reality has been noted.  BTW, please inform us...what does atheism teach?

In that case what does theism teach?

Theist religions exist as well as Atheist religions.

Oh shit ... the thread's been Huggified.

That's why I'm always saying atheism is an entirely insufficient label for virtually everything. If the person who killed 900 people (not even sure who the fuck he's talking about, a name would be nice) wasn't a rational skeptic and secular humanist, then I don't really give a fuck what other label applies to them. How many atheists have come out of a religion that has completely fucked up their ability to determine what is moral and have not been able to fill that vacuum with anything better and so they've still been just as big of assholes as someone like Fred Phelps?

Atheism is the equivalent of standing in the doorway of a prison cell. You haven't walked out of it even though the door's open. You're not necessarily going to walk all the way out of it, you're not necessarily going to be leaving everything in the cage behind if you do walk out of it and end up taking that baggage with you, and you're not necessarily not going decide to close the door back on yourself and pretend it's locked again. Completely insufficient to describe anything about a person other than a lack of belief in one or more gods. Every theist today is an atheists in regards to gods of other religions, or even other iterations of the same god that they feel the need to describe differently from their arbitrary (and unreasonable) interpretations of them.

You want a name? How about Jim Jones?

(September 27, 2017 at 8:02 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Your indifference to an atheist committing atrocious acts is noted. You now have no leg to stand on when it comes issues of morality.

Considering that morality is subjective.....

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(September 27, 2017 at 10:02 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You want a name? How about Jim Jones?

Ooooo, ooooo, I want to play the name game.

Neil Degrasse Tyson.

(September 27, 2017 at 10:02 am)Huggy74 Wrote: You want a name? How about Jim Jones?

*yawn*

Wake me when you come up with the name of a sane atheist who adhered to rational skepticism and the practice of the silver rule and committed heinous acts that led to the deaths of hundreds of others under the banner of "atheism".

A megalomaniac cult leader with delusions of grandeur and a persecution complex doesn't cut it.